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From: Denis Maier <denis.maier.lists@mailbox.org>
To: Org Mode List <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [wip-cite-new] Adjust punctuation around citations
Date: Fri, 14 May 2021 15:39:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fc4d8a5b-38f2-6598-ae15-4a6ba0909170@mailbox.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871raawc7j.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr>

Hi,

>      (strict inside before) corresponds to French typography.
>

Regarding French typography.
With this example:
---------------------------------------------------
#+language: fr
#+cite_export: test

"This is a complete sentence."[cite:@key]

"This is an incomplete sentence" [cite:@key].

"This is an incomplete sentence". [cite:@key]

This is a complete sentence. [cite:@key]

This is an incomplete sentence [cite:@key].
----------------------------------------------------

I'm getting:

----------------------------------------------------
"This is a complete sentence[1]."

"This is an incomplete sentence[2]" .

"This is an incomplete sentence"[3].

This is a complete sentence[4].

This is an incomplete sentence[5].
----------------------------------------------------

1, 3, 4, 5 look ok.
2 is a bit odd.
- there's the spurios space before the period.
- I think in that case the footnote mark should be just before the 
period, i.e. after the quotation mark. Basically like example 3.

I think the textbook rule regarding French typography is:
Place the footnote mark just before the final punctuation.
Punctuation is placed inside quotation marks if we have a full 
quotation, otherwise outside. (OTOH, that seems to be a textbook rule. 
As I've said, I haven't seen that in real books.)

I don't know if that is feasible with the current parameters.

Denis



  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-05-14 13:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-13 21:33 Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-13 22:14 ` Denis Maier
2021-05-13 23:21 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-14  8:31   ` Denis Maier
2021-05-14 10:26   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-14 12:37     ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-14  8:42 ` Denis Maier
2021-05-14 12:28   ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-15 11:56   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-15 12:03     ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-15 12:43       ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-16 21:29     ` Denis Maier
2021-05-16 21:38       ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-16 22:03         ` Denis Maier via General discussions about Org-mode.
2021-05-16 22:24           ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-17  8:08             ` Denis Maier
2021-06-05 21:35               ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-06-05 21:45                 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-06-05 22:00                   ` Denis Maier
2021-06-12  9:39                     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-06-12 21:41                       ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-06-12 22:04                         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-06-12 22:12                           ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-06-13  8:22                           ` Denis Maier
2021-06-13 21:54                       ` Denis Maier
2021-06-13 22:04                         ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-06-13 22:23                           ` Denis Maier
2021-06-13 22:47                             ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-06-14 11:45                               ` Denis Maier
2021-06-14 11:51                                 ` Denis Maier
2021-06-14 23:37                                 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-06-14 23:41                                   ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-06-20  7:41                                   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-06-20 16:37                                     ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-06-20 17:17                                       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-06-21  8:12                                     ` Denis Maier
2021-06-21  8:45                                       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-06-21  9:49                                         ` Denis Maier
2021-06-21 10:07                                         ` Denis Maier
2021-05-14 13:39 ` Denis Maier [this message]
2021-05-15 11:43   ` Nicolas Goaziou

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