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From: Denis Maier via "General discussions about Org-mode." <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [wip-cite-new] Adjust punctuation around citations
Date: Mon, 17 May 2021 00:03:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d37a6d0c-643e-682d-6bca-7d0657a0262e@mailbox.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAF-FPGMv7U0waYAFwXVR7iff6dmgpGmx3Y6eBiSOVQ_t0no2_w@mail.gmail.com>

Am 16.05.2021 um 23:38 schrieb Bruce D'Arcus:
> On Sun, May 16, 2021 at 5:29 PM Denis Maier
> <denis.maier.lists@mailbox.org> wrote:
> 
> ...
> 
>> There's only one further complication: if the quotation is a set off
>> block quote, the citation comes after the punctuation mark:
>> This is a complete sentence. (author year)
> 
> I've not seen that with the cases I'm familiar with (US and UK English).
> 
> The citation would just be inside the final period of the blockquote,
> so depending on style class:
> 
> - ... ending of blockquote (Doe, 2019).
> - ... ending of blockquote [doe19].
> - ... ending of blockquote.[1]
> 
> So there would be need for any special handling.
> 
> I mean blockquotes don't normally include quotation marks around them.
> 
> Can you clarify the rule/situation that would use that approach?
> 

Chicago Manual of Style 15.26:
"When the source of a block quotation is given in parentheses at the end 
of the quotation, the opening parenthesis appears after the final 
punctuation mark of the quoted material. No period either precedes or 
follows the closing parenthesis."

And the example:
If you happen to be fishing, and you get a strike, and whatever it is 
starts off with the preliminaries of a vigorous fight; and by and by, 
looking down over the side through the glassy water, you see a rosy 
golden gleam, the mere specter of a fish, shining below in the clear 
depths; and when you look again a sort of glory of golden light flashes 
and dazzles as it circles nearer beneath and around and under the boat; 
. . . and you land a slim and graceful and impossibly beautiful 
three-foot goldfish, whose fierce and vivid yellow is touched around the 
edges with a violent red—when all these things happen to you, fortunate 
but bewildered fisherman, then you may know you have been fishing in the 
Galapagos Islands and have taken a Golden Grouper. (Pinchot 1930, 123)

Seems to be the same in MLA and APA by the way:
https://writingcenter.uagc.edu/block-quotations

Denis



  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-16 22:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-13 21:33 Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-13 22:14 ` Denis Maier
2021-05-13 23:21 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-14  8:31   ` Denis Maier
2021-05-14 10:26   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-14 12:37     ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-14  8:42 ` Denis Maier
2021-05-14 12:28   ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-15 11:56   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-15 12:03     ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-15 12:43       ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-16 21:29     ` Denis Maier
2021-05-16 21:38       ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-16 22:03         ` Denis Maier via General discussions about Org-mode. [this message]
2021-05-16 22:24           ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-17  8:08             ` Denis Maier
2021-06-05 21:35               ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-06-05 21:45                 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-06-05 22:00                   ` Denis Maier
2021-06-12  9:39                     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-06-12 21:41                       ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-06-12 22:04                         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-06-12 22:12                           ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-06-13  8:22                           ` Denis Maier
2021-06-13 21:54                       ` Denis Maier
2021-06-13 22:04                         ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-06-13 22:23                           ` Denis Maier
2021-06-13 22:47                             ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-06-14 11:45                               ` Denis Maier
2021-06-14 11:51                                 ` Denis Maier
2021-06-14 23:37                                 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-06-14 23:41                                   ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-06-20  7:41                                   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-06-20 16:37                                     ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-06-20 17:17                                       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-06-21  8:12                                     ` Denis Maier
2021-06-21  8:45                                       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-06-21  9:49                                         ` Denis Maier
2021-06-21 10:07                                         ` Denis Maier
2021-05-14 13:39 ` Denis Maier
2021-05-15 11:43   ` Nicolas Goaziou

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