From: "Bruce D'Arcus" <firstname.lastname@example.org> To: Denis Maier <email@example.com>, "Bruce D'Arcus" <firstname.lastname@example.org>, Org Mode List <email@example.com> Subject: Re: [wip-cite-new] Adjust punctuation around citations Date: Sat, 12 Jun 2021 17:41:02 -0400 [thread overview] Message-ID: <CAF-FPGM2eTk=S3s7oQCP6mL-wvUvqhbEBRZu2PD9h_WVE_zNHA@mail.gmail.com> (raw) In-Reply-To: <firstname.lastname@example.org> I'm not able to test this closely ATM, but a few things ... On Sat, Jun 12, 2021 at 5:39 AM Nicolas Goaziou <email@example.com> wrote: > > Hello, > > Denis Maier <firstname.lastname@example.org> writes: > > > Yes, good this is coming. > > As a step forward, I rebased wip-cite-new branch with more support for > note numbers handling. > > I added three customizable variables: > > - org-cite-adjust-note-numbers, which simply allows the user to toggle > punctuation and note number moving (on by default). > > - org-cite-note-rules, which defines what rules to apply according to > locale, expressed as a language tag, as in RFC 4646. > > - org-cite-punctuation-marks, which lists strings recognized as > punctuation in the process. > > `csl' and `basic' processors now both make use of this. > > I'd appreciate some feedback, in particular about the docstrings of the > variables above. I focused on the "note numbers" topic instead of > "punctuation" since I found the latter too generic. > > Also, there are some points that may need to be discussed: > > - I'm not sure about the `org-cite-punctuation-marks' variable being > global, i.e., not locale-specific. One of the things I've wondered about, but cannot offer any expertise on (really, I have no clue), is how this might work for languages like Arabic or Mandarin. > - There is no support for this in LaTeX-derived back-ends, because > I don't know when a citation is going to become a footnote. As > a reminder, there is no "\footcite" command in `biblatex' processor. > OTOH, users might prefer using a more advanced mechanism, e.g., > csquotes. So the upshot is if users want this functionality for LaTeX/PDF, they should use oc-biblatex for that export target? > - It doesn't do anything special in quote blocks, because I'm still not > sure there is something to do. AFAIU, special casing there only > applies to author-date location, which out of the scope of this code. Here's the scenario I believe Denis was concerned about: #+begin_quote ... block with citation at end. [cite:@doe] #+end_quote I think in standard author-year styles, we'd want: ... block with citation at end. (Doe, 2020) ... while in note-based and "US" (space removed): ... block with citation at end. Not sure if that has any practical import, but just to clarify. Bruce
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