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From: "Bruce D'Arcus" <bdarcus@gmail.com>
To: Org Mode List <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [wip-cite-new] Adjust punctuation around citations
Date: Sat, 15 May 2021 08:03:24 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAF-FPGO5Bgq8BQ0e2oBbXofp4SWROcdbfNyURKSpgt08Prt+Jw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87sg2orz0z.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr>

On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 7:56 AM Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> wrote:

...

> At the moment, the `org-cite-adjust-punctuation' function is designed
> with author-year to note conversion in mind, not the other way. I don't
> have enough examples of the opposite transformation to even be sure the
> current interface would be appropriate. I even believe this is not often
> possible, as it would imply rewording, i.e., add information that is not
> present in the original document.
>
> This doesn't seem to be a limitation, though. This feature is useful for
> users having to switch between author-year and note styles. The rule of
> thumb is to always write author-year in source.
>
> In any case, this explains why the docstring has a bias. I updated it to
> insist on the fact that these are rules for author-year to note
> conversion.

FWIW, I agree with this decision.

High level, the basic logic says to a user if you need to cite
something, insert a citation, and let your citation processor take
care of the rest.

Whether that final output is a number, a footnote mark, or an
author-date representation, it should "just work."

Going the other way doesn't really make sense from that perspective. A
user can still place a citation in a footnote manually.

Bruce


  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-15 12:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-13 21:33 Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-13 22:14 ` Denis Maier
2021-05-13 23:21 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-14  8:31   ` Denis Maier
2021-05-14 10:26   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-14 12:37     ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-14  8:42 ` Denis Maier
2021-05-14 12:28   ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-15 11:56   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-15 12:03     ` Bruce D'Arcus [this message]
2021-05-15 12:43       ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-16 21:29     ` Denis Maier
2021-05-16 21:38       ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-16 22:03         ` Denis Maier via General discussions about Org-mode.
2021-05-16 22:24           ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-17  8:08             ` Denis Maier
2021-06-05 21:35               ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-06-05 21:45                 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-06-05 22:00                   ` Denis Maier
2021-06-12  9:39                     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-06-12 21:41                       ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-06-12 22:04                         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-06-12 22:12                           ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-06-13  8:22                           ` Denis Maier
2021-06-13 21:54                       ` Denis Maier
2021-06-13 22:04                         ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-06-13 22:23                           ` Denis Maier
2021-06-13 22:47                             ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-06-14 11:45                               ` Denis Maier
2021-06-14 11:51                                 ` Denis Maier
2021-06-14 23:37                                 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-06-14 23:41                                   ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-06-20  7:41                                   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-06-20 16:37                                     ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-06-20 17:17                                       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-06-21  8:12                                     ` Denis Maier
2021-06-21  8:45                                       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-06-21  9:49                                         ` Denis Maier
2021-06-21 10:07                                         ` Denis Maier
2021-05-14 13:39 ` Denis Maier
2021-05-15 11:43   ` Nicolas Goaziou

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