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From: Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr>
To: Denis Maier <denismaier@mailbox.org>
Cc: Org Mode List <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>, Bruce D'Arcus <bdarcus@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [wip-cite-new] Adjust punctuation around citations
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2021 10:45:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fsxbip1y.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dfc579d6-fee3-1f4d-6ef8-1d4043a6d997@mailbox.org> (Denis Maier's message of "Mon, 21 Jun 2021 10:12:22 +0200")

Hello,

Denis Maier <denismaier@mailbox.org> writes:

> Using a space for this is perhaps too subtle as you say. Also, the
> question is which one should be the default. I'd actually suggest to 
> turn it around:
>
>    "A quotation ending without punctuation"[cite: @hoel-71-whole].
>    "A quotation ending with a period" [cite: @hoel-71-whole].
>
> Reason for this: People who don't care for this distinction---either
> because they use en-us only, or because they never switch from in-text 
> to notes styles---will probably prefer to have a space between
> quotation and citation (in input and output).

People who don't care for this distinction can write 

   "A quotation ending without punctuation" [cite: @hoel-71-whole].
   "A quotation ending with a period" [cite: @hoel-71-whole].

So I guess the default doesn't matter in this case?

> What about some sort of escaping for punctuation that should stay
> outside the quotation marks?
>    "A quotation ending without punctuation" [cite: @hoel-71-whole]\.
>
> But, of course, that's imperfect as well. Don't know which option is
> less odd.

Actual usage may tell. I implemented the spacing-tweak in
"wip-cite-new". You (and others) may want to try it out on real
documents and see if it feels somewhat natural.

Regards,
-- 
Nicolas Goaziou


  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-21  8:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-13 21:33 Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-13 22:14 ` Denis Maier
2021-05-13 23:21 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-14  8:31   ` Denis Maier
2021-05-14 10:26   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-14 12:37     ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-14  8:42 ` Denis Maier
2021-05-14 12:28   ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-15 11:56   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-15 12:03     ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-15 12:43       ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-16 21:29     ` Denis Maier
2021-05-16 21:38       ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-16 22:03         ` Denis Maier via General discussions about Org-mode.
2021-05-16 22:24           ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-17  8:08             ` Denis Maier
2021-06-05 21:35               ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-06-05 21:45                 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-06-05 22:00                   ` Denis Maier
2021-06-12  9:39                     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-06-12 21:41                       ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-06-12 22:04                         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-06-12 22:12                           ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-06-13  8:22                           ` Denis Maier
2021-06-13 21:54                       ` Denis Maier
2021-06-13 22:04                         ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-06-13 22:23                           ` Denis Maier
2021-06-13 22:47                             ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-06-14 11:45                               ` Denis Maier
2021-06-14 11:51                                 ` Denis Maier
2021-06-14 23:37                                 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-06-14 23:41                                   ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-06-20  7:41                                   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-06-20 16:37                                     ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-06-20 17:17                                       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-06-21  8:12                                     ` Denis Maier
2021-06-21  8:45                                       ` Nicolas Goaziou [this message]
2021-06-21  9:49                                         ` Denis Maier
2021-06-21 10:07                                         ` Denis Maier
2021-05-14 13:39 ` Denis Maier
2021-05-15 11:43   ` Nicolas Goaziou

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