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From: Denis Maier <denismaier@mailbox.org>
To: Bruce D'Arcus <bdarcus@gmail.com>,
	Org Mode List <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>,
	 Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr>
Subject: Re: [wip-cite-new] Adjust punctuation around citations
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2021 23:54:00 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <535c4059-e019-0970-afea-efed82b003ac@mailbox.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87zgvvtoay.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr>

Am 12.06.2021 um 11:39 schrieb Nicolas Goaziou:
> Hello,
> 
> Denis Maier <denismaier@mailbox.org> writes:
> 
>> Yes, good this is coming.
> 
> As a step forward, I rebased wip-cite-new branch with more support for
> note numbers handling.
> 
> I added three customizable variables:
> 
> - org-cite-adjust-note-numbers, which simply allows the user to toggle
>    punctuation and note number moving (on by default).
> 
> - org-cite-note-rules, which defines what rules to apply according to
>    locale, expressed as a language tag, as in RFC 4646.
> 
> - org-cite-punctuation-marks, which lists strings recognized as
>    punctuation in the process.
> 
> `csl' and `basic' processors now both make use of this.
> 
> I'd appreciate some feedback, in particular about the docstrings of the
> variables above. I focused on the "note numbers" topic instead of
> "punctuation" since I found the latter too generic.
> 
> Also, there are some points that may need to be discussed:
> 
> - I'm not sure about the `org-cite-punctuation-marks' variable being
>    global, i.e., not locale-specific.
> 
> - There is no support for this in LaTeX-derived back-ends, because
>    I don't know when a citation is going to become a footnote. As
>    a reminder, there is no "\footcite" command in `biblatex' processor.
>    OTOH, users might prefer using a more advanced mechanism, e.g.,
>    csquotes.
> 
> - It doesn't do anything special in quote blocks, because I'm still not
>    sure there is something to do. AFAIU, special casing there only
>    applies to author-date location, which out of the scope of this code.
> 
> WDYT?

Ok, I've managed to test this a bit, and I think this looks pretty good 
so far.

The only question I'd still have is if this could somehow also cover the 
reverse situation (going from a note style to author-date). I've noticed 
that simply adding a new language rule doesn't work anymore---as opposed 
to my initial tests with earlier iterations of that mechanism. Seems 
like this mechanism is now only triggered when using a note based style.

Best,
Denis

> 
> Regards,
> 



  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-06-13 21:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-13 21:33 Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-13 22:14 ` Denis Maier
2021-05-13 23:21 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-14  8:31   ` Denis Maier
2021-05-14 10:26   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-14 12:37     ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-14  8:42 ` Denis Maier
2021-05-14 12:28   ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-15 11:56   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-15 12:03     ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-15 12:43       ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-16 21:29     ` Denis Maier
2021-05-16 21:38       ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-16 22:03         ` Denis Maier via General discussions about Org-mode.
2021-05-16 22:24           ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-17  8:08             ` Denis Maier
2021-06-05 21:35               ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-06-05 21:45                 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-06-05 22:00                   ` Denis Maier
2021-06-12  9:39                     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-06-12 21:41                       ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-06-12 22:04                         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-06-12 22:12                           ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-06-13  8:22                           ` Denis Maier
2021-06-13 21:54                       ` Denis Maier [this message]
2021-06-13 22:04                         ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-06-13 22:23                           ` Denis Maier
2021-06-13 22:47                             ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-06-14 11:45                               ` Denis Maier
2021-06-14 11:51                                 ` Denis Maier
2021-06-14 23:37                                 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-06-14 23:41                                   ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-06-20  7:41                                   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-06-20 16:37                                     ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-06-20 17:17                                       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-06-21  8:12                                     ` Denis Maier
2021-06-21  8:45                                       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-06-21  9:49                                         ` Denis Maier
2021-06-21 10:07                                         ` Denis Maier
2021-05-14 13:39 ` Denis Maier
2021-05-15 11:43   ` Nicolas Goaziou

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