From: "Bruce D'Arcus" <email@example.com>
To: Denis Maier <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Cc: Org Mode List <email@example.com>,
Nicolas Goaziou <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Subject: Re: [wip-cite-new] Adjust punctuation around citations
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2021 15:47:51 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAF-FPGOJZXNg_+jOEtp71poxTVxJ9zjzxRfbchL1MhUtz1igCw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
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I'll let you two sort it out; I don't have a position.
On Sun, Jun 13, 2021, 3:23 PM Denis Maier <email@example.com> wrote:
> Bruce D'Arcus <firstname.lastname@example.org> hat am 14.06.2021 00:04 geschrieben:
> Nicolas explained the reverse is out of scope,
> IIRC, it was out of scope ATM.
> and gave a reasonable explanation why (because much harder to reconstruct
> missing information IIRC).
> That's where I disagree. I think the opposite is true.
> On Sun, Jun 13, 2021, 2:54 PM Denis Maier <email@example.com> wrote:
> Am 12.06.2021 um 11:39 schrieb Nicolas Goaziou:
> > Hello,
> > Denis Maier <firstname.lastname@example.org> writes:
> >> Yes, good this is coming.
> > As a step forward, I rebased wip-cite-new branch with more support for
> > note numbers handling.
> > I added three customizable variables:
> > - org-cite-adjust-note-numbers, which simply allows the user to toggle
> > punctuation and note number moving (on by default).
> > - org-cite-note-rules, which defines what rules to apply according to
> > locale, expressed as a language tag, as in RFC 4646.
> > - org-cite-punctuation-marks, which lists strings recognized as
> > punctuation in the process.
> > `csl' and `basic' processors now both make use of this.
> > I'd appreciate some feedback, in particular about the docstrings of the
> > variables above. I focused on the "note numbers" topic instead of
> > "punctuation" since I found the latter too generic.
> > Also, there are some points that may need to be discussed:
> > - I'm not sure about the `org-cite-punctuation-marks' variable being
> > global, i.e., not locale-specific.
> > - There is no support for this in LaTeX-derived back-ends, because
> > I don't know when a citation is going to become a footnote. As
> > a reminder, there is no "\footcite" command in `biblatex' processor.
> > OTOH, users might prefer using a more advanced mechanism, e.g.,
> > csquotes.
> > - It doesn't do anything special in quote blocks, because I'm still not
> > sure there is something to do. AFAIU, special casing there only
> > applies to author-date location, which out of the scope of this code.
> > WDYT?
> Ok, I've managed to test this a bit, and I think this looks pretty good
> so far.
> The only question I'd still have is if this could somehow also cover the
> reverse situation (going from a note style to author-date). I've noticed
> that simply adding a new language rule doesn't work anymore---as opposed
> to my initial tests with earlier iterations of that mechanism. Seems
> like this mechanism is now only triggered when using a note based style.
> > Regards,
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Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-05-13 21:33 [wip-cite-new] Adjust punctuation around citations Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-13 22:14 ` Denis Maier
2021-05-13 23:21 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-14 8:31 ` Denis Maier
2021-05-14 10:26 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-14 12:37 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-14 8:42 ` Denis Maier
2021-05-14 12:28 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-15 11:56 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-15 12:03 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-15 12:43 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-16 21:29 ` Denis Maier
2021-05-16 21:38 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-16 22:03 ` Denis Maier via General discussions about Org-mode.
2021-05-16 22:24 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-17 8:08 ` Denis Maier
2021-06-05 21:35 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-06-05 21:45 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-06-05 22:00 ` Denis Maier
2021-06-12 9:39 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-06-12 21:41 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-06-12 22:04 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-06-12 22:12 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-06-13 8:22 ` Denis Maier
2021-06-13 21:54 ` Denis Maier
2021-06-13 22:04 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-06-13 22:23 ` Denis Maier
2021-06-13 22:47 ` Bruce D'Arcus [this message]
2021-06-14 11:45 ` Denis Maier
2021-06-14 11:51 ` Denis Maier
2021-06-14 23:37 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-06-14 23:41 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-06-20 7:41 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-06-20 16:37 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-06-20 17:17 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-06-21 8:12 ` Denis Maier
2021-06-21 8:45 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-06-21 9:49 ` Denis Maier
2021-06-21 10:07 ` Denis Maier
2021-05-14 13:39 ` Denis Maier
2021-05-15 11:43 ` Nicolas Goaziou
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