From: "Bruce D'Arcus" <email@example.com> To: Denis Maier <firstname.lastname@example.org> Cc: Org Mode List <email@example.com>, Nicolas Goaziou <firstname.lastname@example.org> Subject: Re: [wip-cite-new] Adjust punctuation around citations Date: Sun, 13 Jun 2021 15:47:51 -0700 [thread overview] Message-ID: <CAF-FPGOJZXNg_+jOEtp71poxTVxJ9zjzxRfbchL1MhUtz1igCw@mail.gmail.com> (raw) In-Reply-To: <email@example.com> [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2735 bytes --] I'll let you two sort it out; I don't have a position. On Sun, Jun 13, 2021, 3:23 PM Denis Maier <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote: > > Bruce D'Arcus <email@example.com> hat am 14.06.2021 00:04 geschrieben: > > > Nicolas explained the reverse is out of scope, > > IIRC, it was out of scope ATM. > > and gave a reasonable explanation why (because much harder to reconstruct > missing information IIRC). > > That's where I disagree. I think the opposite is true. > > On Sun, Jun 13, 2021, 2:54 PM Denis Maier <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote: > > Am 12.06.2021 um 11:39 schrieb Nicolas Goaziou: > > Hello, > > > > Denis Maier <email@example.com> writes: > > > >> Yes, good this is coming. > > > > As a step forward, I rebased wip-cite-new branch with more support for > > note numbers handling. > > > > I added three customizable variables: > > > > - org-cite-adjust-note-numbers, which simply allows the user to toggle > > punctuation and note number moving (on by default). > > > > - org-cite-note-rules, which defines what rules to apply according to > > locale, expressed as a language tag, as in RFC 4646. > > > > - org-cite-punctuation-marks, which lists strings recognized as > > punctuation in the process. > > > > `csl' and `basic' processors now both make use of this. > > > > I'd appreciate some feedback, in particular about the docstrings of the > > variables above. I focused on the "note numbers" topic instead of > > "punctuation" since I found the latter too generic. > > > > Also, there are some points that may need to be discussed: > > > > - I'm not sure about the `org-cite-punctuation-marks' variable being > > global, i.e., not locale-specific. > > > > - There is no support for this in LaTeX-derived back-ends, because > > I don't know when a citation is going to become a footnote. As > > a reminder, there is no "\footcite" command in `biblatex' processor. > > OTOH, users might prefer using a more advanced mechanism, e.g., > > csquotes. > > > > - It doesn't do anything special in quote blocks, because I'm still not > > sure there is something to do. AFAIU, special casing there only > > applies to author-date location, which out of the scope of this code. > > > > WDYT? > > Ok, I've managed to test this a bit, and I think this looks pretty good > so far. > > The only question I'd still have is if this could somehow also cover the > reverse situation (going from a note style to author-date). I've noticed > that simply adding a new language rule doesn't work anymore---as opposed > to my initial tests with earlier iterations of that mechanism. Seems > like this mechanism is now only triggered when using a note based style. > > Best, > Denis > > > > > Regards, > > > > [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 4596 bytes --]
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-06-13 22:48 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2021-05-13 21:33 Nicolas Goaziou 2021-05-13 22:14 ` Denis Maier 2021-05-13 23:21 ` Bruce D'Arcus 2021-05-14 8:31 ` Denis Maier 2021-05-14 10:26 ` Nicolas Goaziou 2021-05-14 12:37 ` Bruce D'Arcus 2021-05-14 8:42 ` Denis Maier 2021-05-14 12:28 ` Bruce D'Arcus 2021-05-15 11:56 ` Nicolas Goaziou 2021-05-15 12:03 ` Bruce D'Arcus 2021-05-15 12:43 ` Bruce D'Arcus 2021-05-16 21:29 ` Denis Maier 2021-05-16 21:38 ` Bruce D'Arcus 2021-05-16 22:03 ` Denis Maier via General discussions about Org-mode. 2021-05-16 22:24 ` Bruce D'Arcus 2021-05-17 8:08 ` Denis Maier 2021-06-05 21:35 ` Nicolas Goaziou 2021-06-05 21:45 ` Bruce D'Arcus 2021-06-05 22:00 ` Denis Maier 2021-06-12 9:39 ` Nicolas Goaziou 2021-06-12 21:41 ` Bruce D'Arcus 2021-06-12 22:04 ` Nicolas Goaziou 2021-06-12 22:12 ` Bruce D'Arcus 2021-06-13 8:22 ` Denis Maier 2021-06-13 21:54 ` Denis Maier 2021-06-13 22:04 ` Bruce D'Arcus 2021-06-13 22:23 ` Denis Maier 2021-06-13 22:47 ` Bruce D'Arcus [this message] 2021-06-14 11:45 ` Denis Maier 2021-06-14 11:51 ` Denis Maier 2021-06-14 23:37 ` Bruce D'Arcus 2021-06-14 23:41 ` Bruce D'Arcus 2021-06-20 7:41 ` Nicolas Goaziou 2021-06-20 16:37 ` Bruce D'Arcus 2021-06-20 17:17 ` Nicolas Goaziou 2021-06-21 8:12 ` Denis Maier 2021-06-21 8:45 ` Nicolas Goaziou 2021-06-21 9:49 ` Denis Maier 2021-06-21 10:07 ` Denis Maier 2021-05-14 13:39 ` Denis Maier 2021-05-15 11:43 ` Nicolas Goaziou
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