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From: John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu>
To: "Thomas S. Dye" <tsd@tsdye.com>
Cc: Richard Lawrence <richard.lawrence@berkeley.edu>,
	"emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>,
	John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Citations, continued
Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2015 14:38:48 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2a90wje7r.fsf@andrew.cmu.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2bnlcb2v9.fsf@tsdye.com>


You can color your own links like this:

 (highlight-regexp "cite:\\([a-zA-Z0-9]*[-_:]*\\)*" 'dired-warning)

 (highlight-regexp "citenum:\\([a-zA-Z0-9]*[-_:]*\\)*" 'dired-marked)

The regexps are not as robust as what org uses, the plain link on my
system looks like:

"\\<\\(Autocite[*s]?\\|Cite\\(?:a\\(?:l[pt]\\|uthor\\*?\\)\\|[pst]\\)?\\|Gls\\(?:pl\\)?\\|Notecite\\|P\\(?:arencites?\\|notecite\\)\\|ResearcherID\\|Smartcites?\\|Textcites?\\|a\\(?:dd\\(?:bibresource\\|ressbook\\)\\|ns\\|ssignment\\|ttachfile\\|utocite[*s]?\\)\\|b\\(?:bdb\\|ib\\(?:entry\\|liography\\(?:style\\)?\\|tex\\)\\)\\|cite\\(?:a\\(?:l\\(?:[pt]\\*\\|[pt]\\)\\|uthor\\*?\\)\\|date\\*?\\|num\\|p\\*\\|t\\(?:\\*\\|ext\\|itle\\*?\\)\\|url\\|year\\*?\\|[*pst]\\)?\\|do\\(?:cview\\|i\\)\\|e\\(?:l\\(?:feed\\|isp\\)\\|qref\\|xercise\\)\\|f\\(?:ile\\(?:\\+\\(?:\\(?:emac\\|sy\\)s\\)\\)?\\|notecite\\|oot\\(?:cite\\(?:s\\|texts?\\)?\\|fullcite\\)\\|tp\\|u\\(?:llcite\\|nc\\)\\)\\|g\\(?:ls\\(?:pl\\)?\\|nus\\|oogle\\)\\|https?\\|i\\(?:d\\|n\\(?:dex\\|fo\\)\\|rc\\)\\|l\\(?:abel\\|ist-of-\\(?:\\(?:figur\\|tabl\\)es\\)\\)\\|m\\(?:a\\(?:c-outlook\\|ilto\\)\\|c\\|essage\\|he\\|od\\|sx\\|u4e\\)\\|n\\(?:ameref\\|ew\\(?:glossaryentry\\|s\\)\\|ihmsid\\|o\\(?:bibliography\\|\\(?:te\\)?cite\\)\\)\\|orcid\\|p\\(?:a\\(?:geref\\|rencite[*s]?\\)\\|m\\(?:c?id\\)\\|notecite\\|rint\\(?:bibliography\\|index\\)\\|ydoc\\)\\|r\\(?:ef\\|mail\\)\\|s\\(?:hell\\|kim\\|link\\|martcites?\\|olution\\|upercites?\\)\\|t\\(?:extcites?\\|q-index\\)\\|x-together-item\\):\\([^
\n()<>]+\\(?:([[:word:]0-9_]+)\\|\\([^[:punct:]
\n]\\|/\\)\\)\\)"


But, if you put that in init files, then your links will be colored the
way you want them.

Thomas S. Dye writes:

> Hi John,
>
> John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>
>>> Now, I agree with you that Org mode links are not ideal for citations.
>>> Parsing the description is humbug and error-prone, and the descriptions
>>> look ungainly in the Org mode document.  I never remember to click
>>> citation links in the "right" place!  There is much room for improvement
>>> here.
>>
>> I am not sure how much better it could get. What did you have in mind? I
>> could imagine for a cite link with several citations the click action
>> could give you an ido-completing/helm selection buffer and you choose
>> what you want to do from there. In org-ref the click action is user
>> definable, so you can get what you want.
>
> I didn't mean to imply any criticism of org-ref, which I haven't used.
> I've been using my own home-grown solution for several years now, have
> grown used to its limitations, and of course now have all those legacy
> documents to support ...
>
> It would be nice to have the link syntax extended or generalized to
> indicate pre- and post-note text, so my home-grown system would use
> links compatible with org-ref, say.  I really like the direction Richard
> is heading for this reason.  If the distinctions needed for citations
> were recognized in the Org mode core, then citation links used by
> different systems might be compatible with one another.
>
> More control over how links are displayed would be nice (perhaps let the
> user pass in a function?).  When I first worked on setting up citations,
> I thought it would be great to color citation links differently from
> other links, and I still kind of like that idea.  Also, in my setup, I
> don't want to see the full link because the bibtex keys are long and the
> full links really break up the flow of the text.  Among other things,
> this means I can't be sure just looking at the buffer in its typical
> state what kind of link I'm using (footcite, parencite, textcite, etc.).
> A little indicator of some kind would be really nice here, but I haven't
> found an easy way to display one.
>
> I'm glad you like Samuel's idea about extensible syntax for links.  I
> don't know if it is practical or not, but it was one of those ideas that
> seemed right on when I first read it.
>
> All the best,
> Tom

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-02-02 19:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-01-31 18:26 Citations, continued Richard Lawrence
2015-01-31 18:42 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2015-02-01 22:07   ` Richard Lawrence
2015-02-02 13:52     ` Rasmus
2015-02-02 17:25       ` Richard Lawrence
2015-02-02 18:09         ` Rasmus
2015-02-02 15:45     ` Erik Hetzner
2015-02-01 22:06 ` John Kitchin
2015-02-02  1:41   ` Richard Lawrence
2015-02-02  4:43     ` Thomas S. Dye
2015-02-02 13:56       ` John Kitchin
2015-02-02 18:11         ` Thomas S. Dye
2015-02-02 19:38           ` John Kitchin [this message]
2015-02-02 19:51           ` John Kitchin
2015-02-02 22:47             ` Rasmus
2015-02-03  0:54             ` Thomas S. Dye
2015-02-03  1:36               ` John Kitchin
2015-02-02 14:17       ` Rasmus
2015-02-02 16:58       ` Richard Lawrence
2015-02-02 14:07   ` Rasmus
2015-02-02 13:51 ` Rasmus
2015-02-02 15:09 ` Matt Price
2015-02-02 18:02 ` Richard Lawrence
2015-02-02 19:55   ` Rasmus
2015-02-03  1:56     ` Richard Lawrence
2015-02-03  2:08       ` Vikas Rawal
2015-02-03 10:55         ` Rasmus
2015-02-04 10:35         ` Julian M. Burgos
2015-02-04 16:34           ` John Kitchin
2015-02-03 10:35       ` Rasmus
2015-02-03 12:00         ` Eric S Fraga
2015-02-03 16:27           ` Richard Lawrence
2015-02-03 17:25             ` Eric S Fraga
2015-02-03  3:58   ` Erik Hetzner
2015-02-03  4:41     ` Richard Lawrence
2015-02-03  7:30       ` Erik Hetzner
2015-02-03 16:11         ` Richard Lawrence
2015-02-04  6:30           ` Erik Hetzner
2015-02-04 12:06             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2015-02-04 16:45               ` Richard Lawrence
2015-02-06 10:27                 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2015-02-06 22:41                   ` Richard Lawrence
2015-02-07 22:43                     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2015-02-08  2:46                       ` Richard Lawrence
2015-02-08  9:46                         ` John Kitchin
2015-02-08 17:09                           ` Richard Lawrence
2015-02-08 22:23                             ` Thomas S. Dye
2015-02-09  8:46                               ` e.fraga
2015-02-09 10:50                               ` Rasmus
2015-02-09 11:20                                 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2015-02-09 11:37                                   ` Rasmus
2015-02-10  9:06                                     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2015-02-09 15:09                                 ` Thomas S. Dye
2015-02-10  8:55                                   ` Nicolas Goaziou
2015-02-10  9:22                                     ` Rasmus
2015-02-10  9:41                                       ` Nicolas Goaziou
2015-02-10 10:01                                         ` Rasmus
2015-02-10 15:32                                     ` Thomas S. Dye
2015-02-10  1:50                                 ` John Kitchin
2015-02-09 17:46                               ` Richard Lawrence
2015-02-09 20:13                                 ` Rasmus
2015-02-10  1:32                                 ` John Kitchin
2015-02-10  4:04                                   ` Richard Lawrence
2015-02-10  5:23                                     ` John Kitchin
2015-02-10  6:20                                       ` Thomas S. Dye
2015-02-08  9:58                         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2015-02-08 17:18                           ` Richard Lawrence
2015-02-08 18:18                             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2015-02-08  9:28                       ` Rasmus
2015-02-08 10:18                         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2015-02-08 10:50                           ` Rasmus
2015-02-08 12:36                             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2015-02-08 13:40                               ` Rasmus
2015-02-08 16:11                                 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2015-02-09 10:02                                   ` Rasmus
2015-02-08 17:02                                 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2015-02-08 17:29                                   ` Rasmus
2015-02-10  1:54                                   ` John Kitchin
2015-02-10  8:49                                     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2015-02-10  9:20                                       ` Rasmus
2015-02-10 10:05                                         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2015-02-10 10:36                                           ` Rasmus
2015-02-10 10:53                                           ` Andreas Leha
2015-02-10 15:03                                         ` John Kitchin
2015-02-10 15:54                                           ` Rasmus
2015-02-10 16:14                                             ` John Kitchin
2015-02-10 16:22                                         ` Richard Lawrence
2015-02-10 16:44                                           ` Stefan Nobis
2015-02-11  2:07                                             ` Richard Lawrence
2015-02-11 10:19                                               ` Stefan Nobis
2015-02-11 16:51                                                 ` Richard Lawrence
2015-02-13  2:31                                                   ` Matt Price
2015-02-11 10:47                                         ` Aaron Ecay
2015-02-11 11:32                                           ` Rasmus
2015-02-10 16:04                                       ` Richard Lawrence
2015-02-11  2:10                                         ` Thomas S. Dye
2015-02-11  2:48                                           ` Richard Lawrence
2015-02-11  3:53                                             ` Thomas S. Dye
2015-02-06 23:37                   ` Rasmus
2015-02-06 23:16                 ` Rasmus
2015-02-04 17:44               ` Erik Hetzner
2015-02-04 15:59             ` Richard Lawrence
2015-02-04 17:58               ` Erik Hetzner
2015-02-04 19:24                 ` Richard Lawrence

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