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From: Darlan Cavalcante Moreira <darcamo@gmail.com>
To: Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
Cc: Org Mode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Beamer support in Org-mode
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 13:50:52 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4b2126f1.1408c00a.0695.3065@mx.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DA844F05-C5A7-4968-80EF-91F452C39452@gmail.com>

At Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:09:33 +0100,
Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> On Nov 26, 2009, at 7:29 PM, Darlan Cavalcante Moreira wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > I usually make my presentations in beamer as below.
> > ,----
> > | \begin{frame}
> > |   \frametitle{This is the frametitle}
> > |   \begin{itemize}
> > |     \item Some information
> > |     \begin{itemize}
> > |       \item Some information in a subitem
> > |     \end{itemize}
> > |     \item more information
> > |     \item more information \note[item]{This is a note about this  
> > item}
> > |   \end{itemize}
> > | \end{frame}
> > `----
> >
> > Therefore, I think a simple solution is just writing the \note  
> > command directly
> > in org that would then be passed to beamer. In org-mode the same  
> > slide would be
> >
> > ,----
> > | * This is the frametitle
> > |  - Some information
> > |    - Some information in a subitem
> > |  - more information
> > |  - more information \note[item]{This is a note about this item}
> > `----
> >
> > This avoids cluttering the org file and since the item (including  
> > the note) will
> > probably span more then one line, then just leaving notes like this  
> > will allow
> > hiding everything with the outline capabilities of org-mode. If a  
> > subtree is
> > used this would probably not be possible.
> >
> > The "item" option in the note command is used in beamer to number  
> > the notes (I
> > myself always want this).
> >
> > Of course that if everyone else like to put the notes at the end of  
> > the frame
> > then a subtree with all the notes makes sense. Beamer does not  
> > impose where the
> > notes should be inside the frame and I can reeducate myself to put  
> > them inside a
> > subtree, but I'd like to leave the notes near the items they are  
> > related to, if
> > possible.
> 
> I still don't have any better ideas than this to represent notes
> in Org for beamer presentations.  Just writing \noe{...} as you
> suggest will certainly work - the disadvantage is that this does
> not make a lot of sense when exporting to other formats.
> 
> One option would be to turn all those notes into footnotes
> for other export.....
> 
> I'd really be interested to get more input on this issue.
> 
> - Carsten
> 

Maybe it is better to simple ignore notes when exporting to other formats.

For me notes in beamer are useful only to give me an idea of what I intend to
talk about in the presentation and help me training for the presentation. They
are not really "part of the final exported document" and sometimes I put a lot
of information in them (possible in a different language from the
presentation).

Also, the contents in notes can be anything such as a table or a figure. This
obviously would result in an error if or if org tried to put them into a
footnote when exporting to other formats.

Therefore, the question is has anyone here any interest in notes when exporting
to other formats or do they only make sense when exporting to beamer?

  reply	other threads:[~2009-12-10 16:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-26 11:17 Beamer support in Org-mode Carsten Dominik
2009-11-26 11:26 ` Friedrich Delgado Friedrichs
2009-11-26 14:01 ` Sébastien Vauban
2009-11-26 14:54   ` Carsten Dominik
2009-11-26 17:53     ` Sébastien Vauban
2009-11-26 16:30 ` Nick Dokos
2009-11-26 16:47   ` Carsten Dominik
2009-11-26 18:29     ` Darlan Cavalcante Moreira
2009-12-10 16:09       ` Carsten Dominik
2009-12-10 16:50         ` Darlan Cavalcante Moreira [this message]
2009-12-10 17:28           ` Nick Dokos
2009-12-10 20:49             ` Mark Elston
2009-12-10 21:00               ` Thomas S. Dye
2009-12-10 22:02                 ` Mark Elston
2009-12-10 23:31                   ` Nick Dokos
2009-12-10 23:49                     ` Mark Elston
2009-12-11  8:05                       ` Carsten Dominik
2009-12-21 15:50                         ` Thomas S. Dye
2009-12-21 22:28                           ` Carsten Dominik
2009-12-10 21:05               ` Scot Becker
2009-12-15 15:51         ` Eric S Fraga
2009-12-15 19:07           ` Daniel Martins
2009-12-15 19:49             ` Darlan Cavalcante Moreira
2009-12-18 11:06               ` Adam Spiers
2009-11-26 16:49 ` Dan Davison
2009-11-26 16:57   ` Carsten Dominik
2009-11-27  8:02     ` Eric S Fraga
2009-11-27  9:09       ` Sébastien Vauban
2009-11-27 13:48         ` Carsten Dominik
2009-11-27 15:04           ` Sébastien Vauban
2009-11-27 18:40           ` Eric S Fraga
2009-11-27  8:01   ` Eric S Fraga
2009-11-26 17:04 ` Thomas S. Dye
2009-11-26 18:40   ` Dan Davison
2009-11-26 21:38     ` Sébastien Vauban
2009-11-26 21:47       ` Russell Adams
2009-11-27  8:15         ` Eric S Fraga
2009-12-04 10:23           ` Carsten Dominik
2009-11-26 23:51     ` Carsten Dominik
2009-11-27  9:13       ` Sébastien Vauban
2009-11-27 14:26       ` Stephan Schmitt
2009-12-02 16:27       ` Christian Egli
2009-11-27 14:21     ` Magnus Henoch
2009-11-27 15:31       ` Dan Davison
2009-11-27 16:43         ` S5 Slideschows / Presentations - was " Sebastian Rose
2009-11-26 17:10 ` Christoph Groth
2009-11-26 21:25   ` Sébastien Vauban
2009-11-26 18:26 ` Eric S Fraga
2009-11-29 18:03 ` Gray Calhoun
2009-11-29 20:19   ` Carsten Dominik
2009-11-30 23:21     ` Gray Calhoun
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-12-22  0:11 Thomas S. Dye
2009-11-09 13:07 BUG: org-annotation-helper.el uses caddr without requiring cl Adam Spiers
2008-01-31  8:37 Strange bug, request for more info Carsten Dominik
2008-01-31 10:32 ` Adam Spiers
2008-01-31 10:59   ` Hugo Schmitt
2008-01-31 11:54     ` Adam Spiers
     [not found]       ` <orgmode@adamspiers.org>
2008-01-31 16:19         ` Nick Dokos
2008-01-31 16:52           ` Adam Spiers
2008-01-31 17:35         ` Nick Dokos
2009-11-09 15:23         ` BUG: org-annotation-helper.el uses caddr without requiring cl Nick Dokos
2009-11-09 21:10           ` Sebastian Rose
2009-11-09 21:34             ` Carsten Dominik
2009-11-09 22:28               ` Sebastian Rose
2009-12-18 15:06         ` Beamer support in Org-mode Nick Dokos
2009-12-18 21:01           ` Daniel Martins
2009-12-19 22:33             ` Thomas S. Dye
2009-12-20 15:08               ` Darlan Cavalcante Moreira
2010-01-03 19:07                 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-01-03 23:22                   ` Russell Adams
2010-01-04  9:07                     ` Carsten Dominik
2010-01-04 14:49                       ` Darlan Cavalcante Moreira
2010-01-04 15:30                         ` Carsten Dominik
2010-01-05 17:21                         ` Carsten Dominik
2008-01-31 11:25   ` Strange bug, request for more info Carsten Dominik
2008-01-31 12:03     ` Adam Spiers
2008-01-31 14:09       ` Carsten Dominik
2008-01-31 15:33         ` Behavior Change/Bug: Agenda sorting of deadline items v > 4.73 Eric J Haywiser
2008-01-31 15:43           ` Carsten Dominik
2008-01-31 23:20             ` Eric J Haywiser
2008-02-01  8:28               ` Behavior Change/Bug: Agenda sorting of deadline itemsv " Egli Christian (KIRO 41)
2008-02-01 16:57                 ` Eric J Haywiser
2008-02-03  8:21                   ` Carsten Dominik
2008-01-31 13:59 ` Strange bug, request for more info Bernt Hansen
2008-01-31 19:59 ` Philip Rooke
2008-01-31 20:43   ` Jost Burkardt
2008-02-04 17:59 ` Ivan Kanis
2008-02-06 18:08 ` Jost Burkardt
2008-02-07  9:41   ` Carsten Dominik
2010-05-26  2:44 ` Bernt Hansen
2010-05-26  3:21   ` Samuel Wales
2010-05-26 11:35   ` Carsten Dominik
2010-05-27 11:39     ` Bernt Hansen
2010-05-27 17:32       ` John Wiegley

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