From: Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
To: Dan Davison <davison@stats.ox.ac.uk>
Cc: mailing-list-org-mode list <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Beamer support in Org-mode
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 00:51:05 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <73BA2FB4-9E48-4742-ADFB-99CA5B9C81AE@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ws1d5dug.fsf@stats.ox.ac.uk>
On Nov 26, 2009, at 7:40 PM, Dan wrote:
> <...>
>> On Nov 26, 2009, at 1:17 AM, Carsten Dominik wrote:
>>
> <...>
>>> NOW is the time to chime in.
>
> I don't know if this is helpful from someone who hasn't thought
> through
> the details of beamer support but just in case: is there any chance
> that
> we should be thinking at this stage of a generic org-presentation API
> which would initially support just beamer but which would leave open
> the
> possibility for others to implement other slide presentation engines?
> For example I remember that someone once brought up the possibility on
> this list of exporting org to OpenOffice presentation format. And it's
> possible to create something like a slide-show in HTML/CSS --
> although I
> never see anyone doing it. There are at least some things in common
> between different slide-show engines, such as where to break from
> slide
> to slide, slide titles, non-slide notes, etc.
This is an interesting thought, but would require someone skilled
in his area, and a lengthy design process. LaTeX is not a bad
default for org, because it is LaTeX-centric anyway.... ?
>
> Also, I do agree with others that to the extent possible we want
> presentations to emerge naturally out of 'normal' org-files with the
> help of established org mechanisms such as selective subtree
> export. E.g. using the heading title to set the column width feels
> wrong; the natural reaction is to think that that sort of metadata
> should be in a property.
OK, I hear you all pull the same string, that Org-mode files should be
beamer presentations as they are, more or less.
Here are some ideas in that direction:
1. Don't automatically use a specific headline level to create the
columns
environment - at least make that configurable.
2. Make beamer export force org-export-headline-levels equal org-
beamer-frame-level,
so that headlines below the frame level automatically become itemize
levels, unless modified by tags or properties.
3. Use meta data to make headlines special, instead of mixing this
stuff into the. I first thought this is too hard - but maybe it is
OK when edited with column view? Hmm, I am only half-sold on this
- properties
are so hard to see when you need them frequently during editing.
Thomas asked for the possibility to export a subtree as a
presentation, with *relative* levels determining functionality. This
should be easy - when selection a subtree with `C-c @' and then
exporting,
relative levels are already being used now, for any kind of export.
...
- Carsten
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-11-26 23:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-11-26 11:17 Beamer support in Org-mode Carsten Dominik
2009-11-26 11:26 ` Friedrich Delgado Friedrichs
2009-11-26 14:01 ` Sébastien Vauban
2009-11-26 14:54 ` Carsten Dominik
2009-11-26 17:53 ` Sébastien Vauban
2009-11-26 16:30 ` Nick Dokos
2009-11-26 16:47 ` Carsten Dominik
2009-11-26 18:29 ` Darlan Cavalcante Moreira
2009-12-10 16:09 ` Carsten Dominik
2009-12-10 16:50 ` Darlan Cavalcante Moreira
2009-12-10 17:28 ` Nick Dokos
2009-12-10 20:49 ` Mark Elston
2009-12-10 21:00 ` Thomas S. Dye
2009-12-10 22:02 ` Mark Elston
2009-12-10 23:31 ` Nick Dokos
2009-12-10 23:49 ` Mark Elston
2009-12-11 8:05 ` Carsten Dominik
2009-12-21 15:50 ` Thomas S. Dye
2009-12-21 22:28 ` Carsten Dominik
2009-12-10 21:05 ` Scot Becker
2009-12-15 15:51 ` Eric S Fraga
2009-12-15 19:07 ` Daniel Martins
2009-12-15 19:49 ` Darlan Cavalcante Moreira
2009-12-18 11:06 ` Adam Spiers
2009-11-26 16:49 ` Dan Davison
2009-11-26 16:57 ` Carsten Dominik
2009-11-27 8:02 ` Eric S Fraga
2009-11-27 9:09 ` Sébastien Vauban
2009-11-27 13:48 ` Carsten Dominik
2009-11-27 15:04 ` Sébastien Vauban
2009-11-27 18:40 ` Eric S Fraga
2009-11-27 8:01 ` Eric S Fraga
2009-11-26 17:04 ` Thomas S. Dye
2009-11-26 18:40 ` Dan Davison
2009-11-26 21:38 ` Sébastien Vauban
2009-11-26 21:47 ` Russell Adams
2009-11-27 8:15 ` Eric S Fraga
2009-12-04 10:23 ` Carsten Dominik
2009-11-26 23:51 ` Carsten Dominik [this message]
2009-11-27 9:13 ` Sébastien Vauban
2009-11-27 14:26 ` Stephan Schmitt
2009-12-02 16:27 ` Christian Egli
2009-11-27 14:21 ` Magnus Henoch
2009-11-27 15:31 ` Dan Davison
2009-11-27 16:43 ` S5 Slideschows / Presentations - was " Sebastian Rose
2009-11-26 17:10 ` Christoph Groth
2009-11-26 21:25 ` Sébastien Vauban
2009-11-26 18:26 ` Eric S Fraga
2009-11-29 18:03 ` Gray Calhoun
2009-11-29 20:19 ` Carsten Dominik
2009-11-30 23:21 ` Gray Calhoun
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-12-22 0:11 Thomas S. Dye
2009-11-09 13:07 BUG: org-annotation-helper.el uses caddr without requiring cl Adam Spiers
2008-01-31 8:37 Strange bug, request for more info Carsten Dominik
2008-01-31 10:32 ` Adam Spiers
2008-01-31 10:59 ` Hugo Schmitt
2008-01-31 11:54 ` Adam Spiers
[not found] ` <orgmode@adamspiers.org>
2008-01-31 16:19 ` Nick Dokos
2008-01-31 16:52 ` Adam Spiers
2008-01-31 17:35 ` Nick Dokos
2009-11-09 15:23 ` BUG: org-annotation-helper.el uses caddr without requiring cl Nick Dokos
2009-11-09 21:10 ` Sebastian Rose
2009-11-09 21:34 ` Carsten Dominik
2009-11-09 22:28 ` Sebastian Rose
2009-12-18 15:06 ` Beamer support in Org-mode Nick Dokos
2009-12-18 21:01 ` Daniel Martins
2009-12-19 22:33 ` Thomas S. Dye
2009-12-20 15:08 ` Darlan Cavalcante Moreira
2010-01-03 19:07 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-01-03 23:22 ` Russell Adams
2010-01-04 9:07 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-01-04 14:49 ` Darlan Cavalcante Moreira
2010-01-04 15:30 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-01-05 17:21 ` Carsten Dominik
2008-01-31 11:25 ` Strange bug, request for more info Carsten Dominik
2008-01-31 12:03 ` Adam Spiers
2008-01-31 14:09 ` Carsten Dominik
2008-01-31 15:33 ` Behavior Change/Bug: Agenda sorting of deadline items v > 4.73 Eric J Haywiser
2008-01-31 15:43 ` Carsten Dominik
2008-01-31 23:20 ` Eric J Haywiser
2008-02-01 8:28 ` Behavior Change/Bug: Agenda sorting of deadline itemsv " Egli Christian (KIRO 41)
2008-02-01 16:57 ` Eric J Haywiser
2008-02-03 8:21 ` Carsten Dominik
2008-01-31 13:59 ` Strange bug, request for more info Bernt Hansen
2008-01-31 19:59 ` Philip Rooke
2008-01-31 20:43 ` Jost Burkardt
2008-02-04 17:59 ` Ivan Kanis
2008-02-06 18:08 ` Jost Burkardt
2008-02-07 9:41 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-05-26 2:44 ` Bernt Hansen
2010-05-26 3:21 ` Samuel Wales
2010-05-26 11:35 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-05-27 11:39 ` Bernt Hansen
2010-05-27 17:32 ` John Wiegley
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