From: Mark Elston <m_elston@comcast.net>
To: Org Mode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Beamer support in Org-mode
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 14:02:32 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B216FF8.3090101@comcast.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <78CCC120-4A39-4A85-A659-CCDC71EF5CEA@tsdye.com>
Thomas S. Dye wrote:
> Hi Mark,
>
> On Dec 10, 2009, at 10:49 AM, Mark Elston wrote:
>
>> I have been following this discussion with some interest as it may
>> provide the basis for something I am interested in doing as well.
>> I hope my discussion doesn't muddy the waters too much...
>>
>> Nick Dokos wrote:
>>> Darlan Cavalcante Moreira <darcamo@gmail.com
>>> <mailto:darcamo@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> At Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:09:33 +0100,
>>>> Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:carsten.dominik@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> ...
>>>>> I still don't have any better ideas than this to represent notes
>>>>> in Org for beamer presentations. Just writing \noe{...} as you
>>>>> suggest will certainly work - the disadvantage is that this does
>>>>> not make a lot of sense when exporting to other formats.
>>>>>
>>>>> One option would be to turn all those notes into footnotes
>>>>> for other export.....
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd really be interested to get more input on this issue.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Carsten
>>>>>
>>>> Maybe it is better to simple ignore notes when exporting to other
>>>> formats.
>>>>
>>>> For me notes in beamer are useful only to give me an idea of what I
>>>> intend to
>>>> talk about in the presentation and help me training for the
>>>> presentation. They
>>>> are not really "part of the final exported document" and sometimes I
>>>> put a lot
>>>> of information in them (possible in a different language from the
>>>> presentation).
>>>>
>>>> Also, the contents in notes can be anything such as a table or a
>>>> figure. This
>>>> obviously would result in an error if or if org tried to put them into a
>>>> footnote when exporting to other formats.
>>>>
>>>> Therefore, the question is has anyone here any interest in notes
>>>> when exporting
>>>> to other formats or do they only make sense when exporting to beamer?
>>>>
>>
>> My case is similar. I teach a class each week and, so far, have created
>> two documents; a set of handouts and my notes for teaching. Generally
>> these documents start from the same original and I modify and expand the
>> notes I use for teaching while leaving the handouts a smaller doc for
>> those in the class to take their own notes from.
>>
>> I don't use beamer as the handouts tend to be 6-8 pages of 'normal' text
>> as it is and my teaching notes are usually far larger. I don't want to
>> manipulate a stack of paper while teaching.
>>
>>> For me, notes are rather important: in addition to reminding me what to
>>> say, they are essentially a second level to the presentation (and I
>>> always include them in any handouts). Somebody who has a vague interest
>>> in the subject can look at the slides. If they want to go into it a bit
>>> deeper, they can look at the notes.
>>
>> My case is similar but I don't 'expose' my teaching notes to the
>> students for a variety of reasons.
>>
>>> ...
>>> So unless somebody comes up with a really good idea, delaying any
>>> org-specific implementation might be the best way forward: it would save
>>> wear-and-tear on Carsten, allow the rest of us to catch up and gather
>>> some experience and perhaps come up with better ideas on how to handle
>>> this.
>>> Nick
>>
>> I guess my request is similar to what has been discussed above in that I
>> would *very* much like to maintain handouts and teaching material in the
>> same file and then export it to two different files as necessary. This
>> would make my job a lot easier to manage. I could decide which tables,
>> figures, text, etc are common to both docs and which are just for me and
>> everything happens automatically behind the scenes.
>>
>> Beamer output is not critical for me (or even necessarily desired) right
>> now but I would like a way of marking some text for 'limited' export.
>> Using a special notation is not a problem if it gives me the ability to
>> maintain a single document that I can export to two different LaTeX/PDF
>> docs.
>>
>> Mark
>
> I use Org-babel to accomplish this. Its literate programming facility lets you define a block of text and re-use it wherever you like. You can "tangle"
> as many .tex files as you want from a single Org-mode document.
>
> You can find some examples here:
>
> http://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/org-babel-uses.php
>
I had been avoiding the literate programming aspects of org-babel since
my previous experience with literate programming was less than
satisfying. However, this use may be just what the doctor ordered.
I will have to give it a look.
Mark
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-12-10 22:02 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-11-26 11:17 Beamer support in Org-mode Carsten Dominik
2009-11-26 11:26 ` Friedrich Delgado Friedrichs
2009-11-26 14:01 ` Sébastien Vauban
2009-11-26 14:54 ` Carsten Dominik
2009-11-26 17:53 ` Sébastien Vauban
2009-11-26 16:30 ` Nick Dokos
2009-11-26 16:47 ` Carsten Dominik
2009-11-26 18:29 ` Darlan Cavalcante Moreira
2009-12-10 16:09 ` Carsten Dominik
2009-12-10 16:50 ` Darlan Cavalcante Moreira
2009-12-10 17:28 ` Nick Dokos
2009-12-10 20:49 ` Mark Elston
2009-12-10 21:00 ` Thomas S. Dye
2009-12-10 22:02 ` Mark Elston [this message]
2009-12-10 23:31 ` Nick Dokos
2009-12-10 23:49 ` Mark Elston
2009-12-11 8:05 ` Carsten Dominik
2009-12-21 15:50 ` Thomas S. Dye
2009-12-21 22:28 ` Carsten Dominik
2009-12-10 21:05 ` Scot Becker
2009-12-15 15:51 ` Eric S Fraga
2009-12-15 19:07 ` Daniel Martins
2009-12-15 19:49 ` Darlan Cavalcante Moreira
2009-12-18 11:06 ` Adam Spiers
2009-11-26 16:49 ` Dan Davison
2009-11-26 16:57 ` Carsten Dominik
2009-11-27 8:02 ` Eric S Fraga
2009-11-27 9:09 ` Sébastien Vauban
2009-11-27 13:48 ` Carsten Dominik
2009-11-27 15:04 ` Sébastien Vauban
2009-11-27 18:40 ` Eric S Fraga
2009-11-27 8:01 ` Eric S Fraga
2009-11-26 17:04 ` Thomas S. Dye
2009-11-26 18:40 ` Dan Davison
2009-11-26 21:38 ` Sébastien Vauban
2009-11-26 21:47 ` Russell Adams
2009-11-27 8:15 ` Eric S Fraga
2009-12-04 10:23 ` Carsten Dominik
2009-11-26 23:51 ` Carsten Dominik
2009-11-27 9:13 ` Sébastien Vauban
2009-11-27 14:26 ` Stephan Schmitt
2009-12-02 16:27 ` Christian Egli
2009-11-27 14:21 ` Magnus Henoch
2009-11-27 15:31 ` Dan Davison
2009-11-27 16:43 ` S5 Slideschows / Presentations - was " Sebastian Rose
2009-11-26 17:10 ` Christoph Groth
2009-11-26 21:25 ` Sébastien Vauban
2009-11-26 18:26 ` Eric S Fraga
2009-11-29 18:03 ` Gray Calhoun
2009-11-29 20:19 ` Carsten Dominik
2009-11-30 23:21 ` Gray Calhoun
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-12-22 0:11 Thomas S. Dye
2009-11-09 13:07 BUG: org-annotation-helper.el uses caddr without requiring cl Adam Spiers
2008-01-31 8:37 Strange bug, request for more info Carsten Dominik
2008-01-31 10:32 ` Adam Spiers
2008-01-31 10:59 ` Hugo Schmitt
2008-01-31 11:54 ` Adam Spiers
[not found] ` <orgmode@adamspiers.org>
2008-01-31 16:19 ` Nick Dokos
2008-01-31 16:52 ` Adam Spiers
2008-01-31 17:35 ` Nick Dokos
2009-11-09 15:23 ` BUG: org-annotation-helper.el uses caddr without requiring cl Nick Dokos
2009-11-09 21:10 ` Sebastian Rose
2009-11-09 21:34 ` Carsten Dominik
2009-11-09 22:28 ` Sebastian Rose
2009-12-18 15:06 ` Beamer support in Org-mode Nick Dokos
2009-12-18 21:01 ` Daniel Martins
2009-12-19 22:33 ` Thomas S. Dye
2009-12-20 15:08 ` Darlan Cavalcante Moreira
2010-01-03 19:07 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-01-03 23:22 ` Russell Adams
2010-01-04 9:07 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-01-04 14:49 ` Darlan Cavalcante Moreira
2010-01-04 15:30 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-01-05 17:21 ` Carsten Dominik
2008-01-31 11:25 ` Strange bug, request for more info Carsten Dominik
2008-01-31 12:03 ` Adam Spiers
2008-01-31 14:09 ` Carsten Dominik
2008-01-31 15:33 ` Behavior Change/Bug: Agenda sorting of deadline items v > 4.73 Eric J Haywiser
2008-01-31 15:43 ` Carsten Dominik
2008-01-31 23:20 ` Eric J Haywiser
2008-02-01 8:28 ` Behavior Change/Bug: Agenda sorting of deadline itemsv " Egli Christian (KIRO 41)
2008-02-01 16:57 ` Eric J Haywiser
2008-02-03 8:21 ` Carsten Dominik
2008-01-31 13:59 ` Strange bug, request for more info Bernt Hansen
2008-01-31 19:59 ` Philip Rooke
2008-01-31 20:43 ` Jost Burkardt
2008-02-04 17:59 ` Ivan Kanis
2008-02-06 18:08 ` Jost Burkardt
2008-02-07 9:41 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-05-26 2:44 ` Bernt Hansen
2010-05-26 3:21 ` Samuel Wales
2010-05-26 11:35 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-05-27 11:39 ` Bernt Hansen
2010-05-27 17:32 ` John Wiegley
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