From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Darlan Cavalcante Moreira Subject: Re: Beamer support in Org-mode Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 13:50:52 -0300 Message-ID: <4b2126f1.1408c00a.0695.3065@mx.google.com> References: <6A790953-D036-4BAE-8833-E5B343A15331@gmail.com> <23189.1259253052@gamaville.dokosmarshall.org> <8F9C582F-F254-4FF7-A22B-E3D90081D380@gmail.com> <4b0ec920.0407c00a.1a73.1d20@mx.google.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.6 - "Maruoka") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Return-path: Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NImEQ-0000EO-QZ for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:51:10 -0500 Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NImEL-00005S-8q for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:51:09 -0500 Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=34747 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NImEK-00005H-U4 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:51:05 -0500 Received: from mail-yx0-f191.google.com ([209.85.210.191]:34598) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NImEL-0002sB-83 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:51:05 -0500 Received: by yxe29 with SMTP id 29so21043383yxe.14 for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 08:51:03 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Carsten Dominik Cc: Org Mode At Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:09:33 +0100, Carsten Dominik wrote: > > > On Nov 26, 2009, at 7:29 PM, Darlan Cavalcante Moreira wrote: > > > > > > > I usually make my presentations in beamer as below. > > ,---- > > | \begin{frame} > > | \frametitle{This is the frametitle} > > | \begin{itemize} > > | \item Some information > > | \begin{itemize} > > | \item Some information in a subitem > > | \end{itemize} > > | \item more information > > | \item more information \note[item]{This is a note about this > > item} > > | \end{itemize} > > | \end{frame} > > `---- > > > > Therefore, I think a simple solution is just writing the \note > > command directly > > in org that would then be passed to beamer. In org-mode the same > > slide would be > > > > ,---- > > | * This is the frametitle > > | - Some information > > | - Some information in a subitem > > | - more information > > | - more information \note[item]{This is a note about this item} > > `---- > > > > This avoids cluttering the org file and since the item (including > > the note) will > > probably span more then one line, then just leaving notes like this > > will allow > > hiding everything with the outline capabilities of org-mode. If a > > subtree is > > used this would probably not be possible. > > > > The "item" option in the note command is used in beamer to number > > the notes (I > > myself always want this). > > > > Of course that if everyone else like to put the notes at the end of > > the frame > > then a subtree with all the notes makes sense. Beamer does not > > impose where the > > notes should be inside the frame and I can reeducate myself to put > > them inside a > > subtree, but I'd like to leave the notes near the items they are > > related to, if > > possible. > > I still don't have any better ideas than this to represent notes > in Org for beamer presentations. Just writing \noe{...} as you > suggest will certainly work - the disadvantage is that this does > not make a lot of sense when exporting to other formats. > > One option would be to turn all those notes into footnotes > for other export..... > > I'd really be interested to get more input on this issue. > > - Carsten > Maybe it is better to simple ignore notes when exporting to other formats. For me notes in beamer are useful only to give me an idea of what I intend to talk about in the presentation and help me training for the presentation. They are not really "part of the final exported document" and sometimes I put a lot of information in them (possible in a different language from the presentation). Also, the contents in notes can be anything such as a table or a figure. This obviously would result in an error if or if org tried to put them into a footnote when exporting to other formats. Therefore, the question is has anyone here any interest in notes when exporting to other formats or do they only make sense when exporting to beamer?