Re: citations: org-cite vs org-ref 3.0

[Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>]

On 24/03/2022 06:04, Nicolas Goaziou wrote:
> Max Nikulin writes:
> 
>> Nicolas, concerning a new thread, I have an impression that you are
>> busy with over activities since you are participating in discussions
>> not so frequently. So I am unsure at which moment it is appropriate to
>> raise such question that otherwise may just be buried in the list
>> archive.
> 
> I don't see how my presence (or not) on the list relates to this. If
> there's an idea worth a discussion, it should not be buried within
> a thread.

It was you who implemented org-cite and org-element parser. John chose a 
direct and practical way. He defined multiple link types and got the 
working solution. A more elegant approach would require some extension 
of syntax, so your opinion is really important. For cross-references it 
might be "[ref/style...]" in additional to "[cite/style...]" or 
attributes specific to links.

>> Outside of Org, citations are links.
> 
> But we're on an Org mailing list so…

In respect to citations and cross-references Org is a tool to prepare 
documents for "outside of Org".

> I think link attributes were discussed a couple of times on this ML
> already. Nothing was implemented tho.

I do not remember such thread during last couple of years. I will try to 
search deeper and maybe will start another thread.

> I'm not convinced Org should generalize this to any inline object,
> either, mainly because it sounds messy. Of course, if you have an
> idea on the subject, please share it.
> 
> In any case, this is another topic, neither related to citations nor to
> cross-references.

"pageref", "nameref", "eqref", "autoref" (see 
https://github.com/jkitchin/org-ref/blob/master/org-ref.org) may be 
values of the style attribute of a "[[name]]" link instead of link type 
as it is done in org-ref.

>> For citations some values may be passed to specific citation backend
>> overriding default value derived from style.
> 
> In that situation, you can define a new style specific to the citation
> back-end.

Sometimes an ad-hoc adjustment at the particular place is more 
convenient than even file-local property.