From: Dominik Schrempf <dominik.schrempf@gmail.com>
To: "Thomas S. Dye" <tsd@tsdye.online>
Cc: Vikas Rawal <vikasrawal@gmail.com>, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: citations: org-cite vs org-ref 3.0
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2022 21:13:19 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y214idf2.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <875yo8lcgp.fsf@tsdye.online>
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“Thomas S. Dye” <tsd@tsdye.online> writes:
> Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Vikas Rawal <vikasrawal@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> What is the general view of the community about this? Is there a
>>> comprehensive discussion of pros and cons of each?
>>
>> Prof. Kitchin himself provided a summary on why he decided to give up on
>> using org-cite. See <https://github.com/jkitchin/org-ref/issues/892>
>>
> This claim in Kitchin’s summary surprised me:
>
> “It comes down to org-ref using bibtex/biblatex as the predominant citation
> processor, and org-cite using CSL. These two processors have different syntaxes,
> and I don’t think it is possible to have a single approach that works for both
> of them without making compromises in capability.”
>
> I wonder what are the “compromises in capability” required to support both?
>
> I haven’t found them yet, though I’m just now finishing old projects started
> prior to the release of org-cite and haven’t worked through a LaTeX export
> project with it. My first, and so far only, project with org-cite was for a
> simple html-based presentation using CSL, and I was pleased with the results and
> relative ease of setup.
>
> All the best,
> Tom
For what it’s worth, I use `org-ref` because fine-grained citation export with
LaTeX (using BibTeX or BibLaTeX) only works with `org-ref`, and not with
`org-cite`.
If I remember correctly, `org-cite` exports the formatted citations into the
LaTeX file, which is a no-go for me (let me know if I am wrong). Then, for
example, it is really difficult to use different style files, etc. With
`org-ref`, I can use BibLaTeX with specific style files. (Journal require
different style files). I can even use my personal LaTeX classes (with specific
bibliography styles) for Org export.
Not sure if this helps…, but this is maybe what John Kitchin is referring to.
Dominik
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-03-20 20:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-03-20 12:08 citations: org-cite vs org-ref 3.0 Vikas Rawal
2022-03-20 13:19 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2022-03-20 14:08 ` Vikas Rawal
2022-03-20 14:38 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-21 0:31 ` John Kitchin
2022-03-21 1:39 ` Timothy
2022-03-21 8:16 ` Dominik Schrempf
2022-03-21 11:51 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-21 12:34 ` Dominik Schrempf
2022-03-21 12:52 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-21 13:05 ` Dominik Schrempf
2022-03-21 13:24 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-23 21:27 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2022-03-23 21:53 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-23 22:04 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2022-03-23 22:47 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-24 10:04 ` Dominik Schrempf
2022-03-21 12:19 ` John Kitchin
2022-03-21 12:42 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-21 14:06 ` John Kitchin
2022-04-19 22:37 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-21 3:27 ` Vikas Rawal
2022-03-21 11:51 ` John Kitchin
2022-03-21 17:20 ` Vikas Rawal
2022-03-25 15:53 ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-27 15:33 ` John Kitchin
2022-03-27 15:44 ` Vikas Rawal
2022-03-25 17:10 ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-26 12:41 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-27 19:40 ` John Kitchin
2022-03-28 12:34 ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-28 13:16 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-29 15:22 ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-29 16:14 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-30 13:50 ` Denis Maier
2022-03-31 15:10 ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-31 17:27 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-04-02 11:41 ` org-cite, CSL styles and space before citation Max Nikulin
2022-03-30 21:43 ` citations: org-cite vs org-ref 3.0 John Kitchin
2022-03-21 12:59 ` juh
2022-03-22 13:03 ` indieterminacy
2022-03-23 21:06 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2022-03-27 17:00 ` John Kitchin
2022-03-27 23:17 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-21 14:40 ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-21 15:19 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-21 17:00 ` John Kitchin
2022-03-25 15:21 ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-22 14:41 ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-22 17:20 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-23 12:44 ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-23 14:39 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-23 15:26 ` Eric S Fraga
2022-03-23 17:17 ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-23 22:50 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-26 19:08 ` M. Pger
2022-03-22 23:52 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2022-03-23 16:30 ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-23 23:04 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2022-03-25 16:30 ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-27 15:38 ` John Kitchin
2022-03-27 23:18 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-20 13:32 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-20 13:42 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-03-20 18:12 ` Thomas S. Dye
2022-03-20 20:13 ` Dominik Schrempf [this message]
2022-03-20 20:30 ` Vikas Rawal
2022-03-20 20:34 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-20 22:10 ` Dominik Schrempf
2022-03-20 19:44 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-20 21:14 ` chris
2022-03-21 14:21 ` John Kitchin
2022-03-21 14:10 ` John Kitchin
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