From: John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu>
To: Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: citations: org-cite vs org-ref 3.0
Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 11:33:26 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2a6dbs8z2.fsf@andrew.cmu.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <t1koi2$v43$1@ciao.gmane.io>
I have updated the readme in org-ref to indicate you can use both
packages.
Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> writes:
> On 21/03/2022 18:51, John Kitchin wrote:
>> Vikas Rawal writes:
>>>
>>> From the perspective of a user, this was only meant to express a
>>> sentiment that one finds oneself in a situation of having to choose
>>> between two good things, and that we have not been able to find a way
>>> to make both compatible with each other. It was in not meant as a
>>> disrespect in any way.
>> I don't think you have to choose. You can use org-cite for
>> citations, and org-ref for cross-references. The citation syntax is
>> orthogonal, you just should not mix them. You can even wire org-ref to
>> use org-cite-insert like this:
>> (setq org-ref-insert-cite-function (lambda () (org-cite-insert nil)))
>
> I am glad to read this. John, could you, please, update the README file for
> https://github.com/jkitchin/org-ref to clarify that both packages may be used
> within the same document while org-ref is used solely for cross-references (I
> may create a github issue if your prefer)? From my point of view the following
> phrase may be considered as prohibitive in respect to combining the packages for
> any purpose:
>
>> You can use both org-cite and org-ref (although you should not do that in the
>> same document as they are independent citation tools).
> I feel some ambiguity in the starting message in this thread:
>
> Vikas Rawal, Sun, 20 Mar 2022 17:38:30 +0530.
> https://list.orgmode.org/CALtzAB2BHULDOXaamUZFQh2H453Ekb6K7bkOHbU-dHPn98avwg@mail.gmail.com
>
>> This obviously creates many problems including that two people using
>> different citation systems cannot share org files.
> Accordingly to the org-ref README installed org-ref package does not break
> org-cite, so people are free to share documents. They just should have both
> packages configured and should adhere to a chosen package in each document (for
> *citations*).
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-03-27 15:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-03-20 12:08 citations: org-cite vs org-ref 3.0 Vikas Rawal
2022-03-20 13:19 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2022-03-20 14:08 ` Vikas Rawal
2022-03-20 14:38 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-21 0:31 ` John Kitchin
2022-03-21 1:39 ` Timothy
2022-03-21 8:16 ` Dominik Schrempf
2022-03-21 11:51 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-21 12:34 ` Dominik Schrempf
2022-03-21 12:52 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-21 13:05 ` Dominik Schrempf
2022-03-21 13:24 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-23 21:27 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2022-03-23 21:53 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-23 22:04 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2022-03-23 22:47 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-24 10:04 ` Dominik Schrempf
2022-03-21 12:19 ` John Kitchin
2022-03-21 12:42 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-21 14:06 ` John Kitchin
2022-04-19 22:37 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-21 3:27 ` Vikas Rawal
2022-03-21 11:51 ` John Kitchin
2022-03-21 17:20 ` Vikas Rawal
2022-03-25 15:53 ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-27 15:33 ` John Kitchin [this message]
2022-03-27 15:44 ` Vikas Rawal
2022-03-25 17:10 ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-26 12:41 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-27 19:40 ` John Kitchin
2022-03-28 12:34 ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-28 13:16 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-29 15:22 ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-29 16:14 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-30 13:50 ` Denis Maier
2022-03-31 15:10 ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-31 17:27 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-04-02 11:41 ` org-cite, CSL styles and space before citation Max Nikulin
2022-03-30 21:43 ` citations: org-cite vs org-ref 3.0 John Kitchin
2022-03-21 12:59 ` juh
2022-03-22 13:03 ` indieterminacy
2022-03-23 21:06 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2022-03-27 17:00 ` John Kitchin
2022-03-27 23:17 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-21 14:40 ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-21 15:19 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-21 17:00 ` John Kitchin
2022-03-25 15:21 ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-22 14:41 ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-22 17:20 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-23 12:44 ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-23 14:39 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-23 15:26 ` Eric S Fraga
2022-03-23 17:17 ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-23 22:50 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-26 19:08 ` M. Pger
2022-03-22 23:52 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2022-03-23 16:30 ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-23 23:04 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2022-03-25 16:30 ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-27 15:38 ` John Kitchin
2022-03-27 23:18 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-20 13:32 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-20 13:42 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-03-20 18:12 ` Thomas S. Dye
2022-03-20 20:13 ` Dominik Schrempf
2022-03-20 20:30 ` Vikas Rawal
2022-03-20 20:34 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-20 22:10 ` Dominik Schrempf
2022-03-20 19:44 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-20 21:14 ` chris
2022-03-21 14:21 ` John Kitchin
2022-03-21 14:10 ` John Kitchin
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