From: Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: citations: org-cite vs org-ref 3.0
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2022 19:34:59 +0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <t1sa1k$k10$1@ciao.gmane.io> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2tubjmaoz.fsf@andrew.cmu.edu>
On 28/03/2022 02:40, John Kitchin wrote:
> Max Nikulin writes:
>> On 21/03/2022 18:51, John Kitchin wrote:
>
> Rather than rehash a lot of experiences, I really encourage you to try
> writing a processor that can support this. Or even, try modifying
> org-ref-cite to support it. Not as some thought experiment about what
> should be possible, but an actual experiment that is worked out.
I have some ideas for links, other inline objects and export attributes
that I should try before.
>> In particular I am worrying concerning https://github.com/jkitchin/org-ref
>> README (and the same phrase from the earlier message):
>>
>>> org-cite does not meet my citation and technical document publishing needs,
>>> and it was not possible to integrate it into org-ref without compromising
>>> those.
>
> I have taken this out of the readme. I still agree with the sentiment,
> but my needs are not the same as others (for example, I include in my
> needs include ease of support and development, which is not a user
> need), and it is possible to meet some basic needs fully.
John, in another message (Sun, 27 Mar 2022 13:00:40 -0400)
https://list.orgmode.org/m24k3jnq0k.fsf@andrew.cmu.edu you clearly
stated a technical limitation that is a real reason why org-cite is not
an option for you and for some other users: performance has not been
optimized for large BibTeX databases. It is deserved to be mentioned.
You even have managed to convince me that, besides adding missing style
names, some existing ones should be adjusted. noauthor/bare for citeyear
example makes for me much more sense than general words that org-cite is
too CSL-oriented. So the opinion that the set of styles has not really
settled yet may be precious for users choosing between org-cite and org-ref.
From my point of view such arguments are more clear than your earlier
message (Sun, 20 Mar 2022 20:31:29 -0400)
https://list.orgmode.org/m2sfrc149c.fsf@andrew.cmu.edu I had no
intention to force to remove that phrase before the issues are fixed. I
was trying to ask you about more details behind your opinion (and now we
have them).
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-03-28 12:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-03-20 12:08 citations: org-cite vs org-ref 3.0 Vikas Rawal
2022-03-20 13:19 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2022-03-20 14:08 ` Vikas Rawal
2022-03-20 14:38 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-21 0:31 ` John Kitchin
2022-03-21 1:39 ` Timothy
2022-03-21 8:16 ` Dominik Schrempf
2022-03-21 11:51 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-21 12:34 ` Dominik Schrempf
2022-03-21 12:52 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-21 13:05 ` Dominik Schrempf
2022-03-21 13:24 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-23 21:27 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2022-03-23 21:53 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-23 22:04 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2022-03-23 22:47 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-24 10:04 ` Dominik Schrempf
2022-03-21 12:19 ` John Kitchin
2022-03-21 12:42 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-21 14:06 ` John Kitchin
2022-04-19 22:37 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-21 3:27 ` Vikas Rawal
2022-03-21 11:51 ` John Kitchin
2022-03-21 17:20 ` Vikas Rawal
2022-03-25 15:53 ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-27 15:33 ` John Kitchin
2022-03-27 15:44 ` Vikas Rawal
2022-03-25 17:10 ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-26 12:41 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-27 19:40 ` John Kitchin
2022-03-28 12:34 ` Max Nikulin [this message]
2022-03-28 13:16 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-29 15:22 ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-29 16:14 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-30 13:50 ` Denis Maier
2022-03-31 15:10 ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-31 17:27 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-04-02 11:41 ` org-cite, CSL styles and space before citation Max Nikulin
2022-03-30 21:43 ` citations: org-cite vs org-ref 3.0 John Kitchin
2022-03-21 12:59 ` juh
2022-03-22 13:03 ` indieterminacy
2022-03-23 21:06 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2022-03-27 17:00 ` John Kitchin
2022-03-27 23:17 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-21 14:40 ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-21 15:19 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-21 17:00 ` John Kitchin
2022-03-25 15:21 ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-22 14:41 ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-22 17:20 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-23 12:44 ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-23 14:39 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-23 15:26 ` Eric S Fraga
2022-03-23 17:17 ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-23 22:50 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-26 19:08 ` M. Pger
2022-03-22 23:52 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2022-03-23 16:30 ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-23 23:04 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2022-03-25 16:30 ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-27 15:38 ` John Kitchin
2022-03-27 23:18 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-20 13:32 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-20 13:42 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-03-20 18:12 ` Thomas S. Dye
2022-03-20 20:13 ` Dominik Schrempf
2022-03-20 20:30 ` Vikas Rawal
2022-03-20 20:34 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-20 22:10 ` Dominik Schrempf
2022-03-20 19:44 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-20 21:14 ` chris
2022-03-21 14:21 ` John Kitchin
2022-03-21 14:10 ` John Kitchin
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