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From: Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: citations: org-cite vs org-ref 3.0
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2022 19:44:46 +0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <t1f4o0$mno$1@ciao.gmane.io> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAF-FPGPpiuRX7vRSSypQKJ_-+QV_BjeoMEEx9v0FBNJ763THew@mail.gmail.com>

On 23/03/2022 00:20, Bruce D'Arcus wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 10:42 AM Max Nikulin wrote:
>>
>> John Kitchin, this thread, Sun, 20 Mar 2022 20:31:29 -0400.
>> https://list.orgmode.org/m2sfrc149c.fsf@andrew.cmu.edu:
>>
>>> I don't know the equivalent of \citenum in CSL.
> 
> Right; so John or someone else should send a message to the list
> requesting it specifically?

 From my point of view he has already requested support of \citenum by 
that message. I am taking into account that he is the developer org-ref 
and he is happy with this package. John made a lot to adopt org-cite 
syntax to ensure feature parity. Bruce, you should know it better than 
me since you participated in discussions while I am merely and observer. 
John does not really need \citenum namely in org-cite since his tool is 
org-ref, but his words may affect perception of org-cite.

I have an impression that the ball is on the side of the org-cite, and 
next steps may be to ask for real documents (e.g. open access papers) 
that are prepared with such format and to discuss most suitable style 
for CSL.

> One possible idea to consider is to allow two systems in each of
> LaTeX-oriented processors: what we might call a default "org-cite"
> one, and an optional "literal" one. So if you only use oc-natbib, and
> you want the natbib commands directly, you might change a variable to
> get that.

Maybe I will share my idea in response to the message from Nicolas
https://list.orgmode.org/871qytlf49.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr
Wed, 23 Mar 2022 00:52:22 +0100, this thread.

Since John explicitly confirmed that org-ref for cross-references may be 
combined with org-cite for citations, it may be great that Org has 2 
independent implementations for citations. When a user meets some corner 
case their has an opportunity to try another package.



  reply	other threads:[~2022-03-23 12:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-20 12:08 citations: org-cite vs org-ref 3.0 Vikas Rawal
2022-03-20 13:19 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2022-03-20 14:08   ` Vikas Rawal
2022-03-20 14:38     ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-21  0:31   ` John Kitchin
2022-03-21  1:39     ` Timothy
2022-03-21  8:16       ` Dominik Schrempf
2022-03-21 11:51         ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-21 12:34           ` Dominik Schrempf
2022-03-21 12:52             ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-21 13:05               ` Dominik Schrempf
2022-03-21 13:24                 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-23 21:27                 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2022-03-23 21:53                   ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-23 22:04                     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2022-03-23 22:47                       ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-24 10:04                         ` Dominik Schrempf
2022-03-21 12:19       ` John Kitchin
2022-03-21 12:42         ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-21 14:06           ` John Kitchin
2022-04-19 22:37             ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-21  3:27     ` Vikas Rawal
2022-03-21 11:51       ` John Kitchin
2022-03-21 17:20         ` Vikas Rawal
2022-03-25 15:53         ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-27 15:33           ` John Kitchin
2022-03-27 15:44             ` Vikas Rawal
2022-03-25 17:10         ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-26 12:41           ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-27 19:40           ` John Kitchin
2022-03-28 12:34             ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-28 13:16               ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-29 15:22                 ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-29 16:14                   ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-30 13:50                     ` Denis Maier
2022-03-31 15:10                     ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-31 17:27                       ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-04-02 11:41                         ` org-cite, CSL styles and space before citation Max Nikulin
2022-03-30 21:43                   ` citations: org-cite vs org-ref 3.0 John Kitchin
2022-03-21 12:59     ` juh
2022-03-22 13:03       ` indieterminacy
2022-03-23 21:06     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2022-03-27 17:00       ` John Kitchin
2022-03-27 23:17         ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-21 14:40   ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-21 15:19     ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-21 17:00       ` John Kitchin
2022-03-25 15:21         ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-22 14:41       ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-22 17:20         ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-23 12:44           ` Max Nikulin [this message]
2022-03-23 14:39             ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-23 15:26               ` Eric S Fraga
2022-03-23 17:17               ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-23 22:50                 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-26 19:08               ` M. Pger
2022-03-22 23:52     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2022-03-23 16:30       ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-23 23:04         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2022-03-25 16:30           ` Max Nikulin
2022-03-27 15:38           ` John Kitchin
2022-03-27 23:18             ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-20 13:32 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-20 13:42 ` Ihor Radchenko
2022-03-20 18:12   ` Thomas S. Dye
2022-03-20 20:13     ` Dominik Schrempf
2022-03-20 20:30       ` Vikas Rawal
2022-03-20 20:34       ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-20 22:10         ` Dominik Schrempf
2022-03-20 19:44   ` Bruce D'Arcus
2022-03-20 21:14     ` chris
2022-03-21 14:21       ` John Kitchin
2022-03-21 14:10     ` John Kitchin

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