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From: Scott Randby <srandby@gmail.com>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Remove Org from Emacs repository?
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 13:09:14 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <acf89464-c6f1-7b56-7c05-e15a82ed5131@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADn3Z2LZcLGaequKSHfOuVacHbY8cKwBtNwagKnwxHcQDo8_LA@mail.gmail.com>

+1 for Keeping Org in Emacs.

Scott Randby

On 12/18/2016 08:20 AM, Carsten Dominik wrote:
> Dear all,
> 
> I'd hate to see Org removed from Emacs.  It took a lot of work to get it
> in, and I believe that the vast majority of Emacs users does not install
> packages.  For a newbie to get to Emacs and to be able to open a .org
> file is a big plus.  So my vote goes toward keeping it in.
> 
> Carsten
> 
> On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 10:22 AM, <aaermolov@gmail.com
> <mailto:aaermolov@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     2 cents from me...
> 
>     Besides I continuously see many users praising Emacs just for Org
>     presence (they even may be completely non-technical users), I'm
>     personally think Org may be removed from Emacs distribution because:
> 
>     1) all Reuben's argument seems sane;
>     2) there are situations when someone wants particular version of Org,
>        and it may be not tne one bundled with Emacs. In this case someone
>        should perform extra steps to ensure things are going the right way.
>        When Org will be available only from ELPA, it will be SPOT for
>     such cases.
> 
>     Reuben Thomas <rrt@sc3d.org <mailto:rrt@sc3d.org>> writes:
> 
>     > Now that Emacs has had package.el for some years, and Org is installable
>     > directly from GNU ELPA, would it be a good idea to remove Org from Emacs's
>     > source repository?
>     >
>     > The current situation is left over from before Emacs had package.el, and I
>     > see no compelling reason to keep it. Org is too big and distinct to be
>     > swallowed by Emacs; it doesn't make much sense to keep its current half-in,
>     > half-out state; so logically it seems sensible to take it out.
>     >
>     > I am asking this question from an Org point of view; I will ask the Emacs
>     > maintainers separately for their perspective.
>     >
>     > I think it would benefit Emacs too, as there would be less code to maintain
>     > (even though Org is quasi-external at present, it still has to build
>     > successfully as part of an Emacs build), and the Emacs distribution would
>     > be slimmer for non-Org users.
>     >
>     > Of course, Emacs "distributions" would still be able to include Org
>     > out-of-the box if they wished.
>     >
>     > --
>     > http://rrt.sc3d.org
> 
> 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-12-19 18:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-17 22:43 Remove Org from Emacs repository? Reuben Thomas
2016-12-18  9:22 ` aaermolov
2016-12-18 13:20   ` Carsten Dominik
2016-12-18 13:59     ` Rasmus
2016-12-18 14:41     ` Greg Troxel
2016-12-18 15:53       ` Kaushal Modi
2016-12-18 17:01     ` Reuben Thomas
     [not found]       ` <WM!f754fa008f759b442796c83f07a493b80e9d7ae4298a54f3fabf6b50a6e8ba9da1d361e87e441eae1fe9b1deeb824e68!@mailhub-mx3.ncl.ac.uk>
2016-12-19 15:32         ` Phillip Lord
2016-12-19 15:45           ` Reuben Thomas
2016-12-18 17:11     ` Christian Moe
2016-12-18 18:46       ` Xebar Saram
2016-12-18 19:08         ` Lambda Coder
2016-12-19 18:09     ` Scott Randby [this message]
2016-12-18 19:21   ` Samuel Wales
2016-12-18 23:32     ` Reuben Thomas
2016-12-19  1:36       ` MaDhAt2r
2016-12-19 10:42       ` Achim Gratz
     [not found]         ` <WM!759fdf23a4a1bd7b46432ee60644e52fd7beb44781fd97109e1d38080c6611cbecaf3bf7f1ea49cdc6a1823f1a9663ec!@mailhub-mx4.ncl.ac.uk>
2016-12-19 17:14           ` Phillip Lord
2016-12-19 18:53             ` Achim Gratz
     [not found]               ` <WM!fdb65752b64ef5461efbcb948e173a504edcf68a88cb151b38f9292793a941a33217a0cc771607f86b8962c90b171694!@mailhub-mx4.ncl.ac.uk>
2016-12-20 10:13                 ` Phillip Lord
2017-01-16  8:36       ` Erik Colson
2016-12-19  1:52 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2016-12-19  4:42   ` Maria Shinoto
2016-12-20 20:07   ` Preventing Org from being installed by elpa (was: Remove Org from Emacs repository?) Karl Voit
2016-12-21  9:47     ` Preventing Org from being installed by elpa Christian Wittern
2016-12-21 13:25       ` Karl Voit
2016-12-21 23:06         ` Christian Wittern
     [not found]     ` <WM!fbba205c161c2d01739b0e77a8ccc521b0d6b80e8ba4b6108c74becbbd57ccbdb4003d644b63e3c98578a5b823582b17!@mailhub-mx3.ncl.ac.uk>
2016-12-21 12:40       ` Phillip Lord
2016-12-21 13:27         ` Karl Voit
     [not found]           ` <WM!dd5bd1ff96755a23a0384200326165bb89b1fc0144607ae0870bc4237fe325fe903cdff298d097ecb318c066c7b3726c!@mailhub-mx1.ncl.ac.uk>
2016-12-21 14:55             ` Phillip Lord

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