From: MaDhAt2r <madhat2r@dukefoo.com>
To: Reuben Thomas <rrt@sc3d.org>, Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com>
Cc: "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>, aaermolov@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Remove Org from Emacs repository?
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2016 19:36:20 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <871sx4u2cr.fsf@ArchNemesis.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOnWdohoUWbDM3GQ2KZVAu1NaKu60-jB4+_E3z6JXPWeG+_NVA@mail.gmail.com>
I am for leaving it to the users discretion as to weather or not they
have Org installed. I think if anyone out there wants to open an .org
file, more than likely, they know what it is and how to get it. If not
there is a plethora of information out there to point them in the right
direction.
After all, isn't free software, at least somewhat, about choices? :)
On Dec 18 at 11:32 PM, Reuben Thomas said thus:
> On 18 December 2016 at 19:21, Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> auto-mode-alist has more than 200 entries. we're gonna remove .org?
>>
>
> Org is nearly 90kLOC, or about 6.5% of the total ELisp code currently in
> Emacs. It's bigger than CEDET, smaller than GNUS.
>
> It's a project of its own with its own release cadence. It would be good to
> make Emacs less of a monolithic entity, which needs lengthy debugging
> cycles between releases, and has to choose between being out of date with
> various upstreams, or delaying to test integration of big packages.
>
> Now that package.el is mature, there's no need for Emacs to include all
> this stuff in its source releases.
>
> What emacs -Q does is a different matter: there's plenty of scope to ship a
> variety of packages "out of the box". Various customised Emacs
> "distributions" already do this.
>
> "you must install org to view this format" is a bit too minimal for my
>> taste. :) sounds like adobe flash. :)
>>
>
> I'm sure plenty of Emacs users never open an Org-mode file. Why should
> they have to install it?
>
> surely this topic was raised to have a bit of fun seeing all the
>> responses? :)
>>
>
> No, I was just testing the waters to see if a more modern approach to
> development and distribution might be popular. Apparently the answer is, at
> least, not yet!
>
> --
> http://rrt.sc3d.org
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-12-19 1:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-12-17 22:43 Remove Org from Emacs repository? Reuben Thomas
2016-12-18 9:22 ` aaermolov
2016-12-18 13:20 ` Carsten Dominik
2016-12-18 13:59 ` Rasmus
2016-12-18 14:41 ` Greg Troxel
2016-12-18 15:53 ` Kaushal Modi
2016-12-18 17:01 ` Reuben Thomas
[not found] ` <WM!f754fa008f759b442796c83f07a493b80e9d7ae4298a54f3fabf6b50a6e8ba9da1d361e87e441eae1fe9b1deeb824e68!@mailhub-mx3.ncl.ac.uk>
2016-12-19 15:32 ` Phillip Lord
2016-12-19 15:45 ` Reuben Thomas
2016-12-18 17:11 ` Christian Moe
2016-12-18 18:46 ` Xebar Saram
2016-12-18 19:08 ` Lambda Coder
2016-12-19 18:09 ` Scott Randby
2016-12-18 19:21 ` Samuel Wales
2016-12-18 23:32 ` Reuben Thomas
2016-12-19 1:36 ` MaDhAt2r [this message]
2016-12-19 10:42 ` Achim Gratz
[not found] ` <WM!759fdf23a4a1bd7b46432ee60644e52fd7beb44781fd97109e1d38080c6611cbecaf3bf7f1ea49cdc6a1823f1a9663ec!@mailhub-mx4.ncl.ac.uk>
2016-12-19 17:14 ` Phillip Lord
2016-12-19 18:53 ` Achim Gratz
[not found] ` <WM!fdb65752b64ef5461efbcb948e173a504edcf68a88cb151b38f9292793a941a33217a0cc771607f86b8962c90b171694!@mailhub-mx4.ncl.ac.uk>
2016-12-20 10:13 ` Phillip Lord
2017-01-16 8:36 ` Erik Colson
2016-12-19 1:52 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2016-12-19 4:42 ` Maria Shinoto
2016-12-20 20:07 ` Preventing Org from being installed by elpa (was: Remove Org from Emacs repository?) Karl Voit
2016-12-21 9:47 ` Preventing Org from being installed by elpa Christian Wittern
2016-12-21 13:25 ` Karl Voit
2016-12-21 23:06 ` Christian Wittern
[not found] ` <WM!fbba205c161c2d01739b0e77a8ccc521b0d6b80e8ba4b6108c74becbbd57ccbdb4003d644b63e3c98578a5b823582b17!@mailhub-mx3.ncl.ac.uk>
2016-12-21 12:40 ` Phillip Lord
2016-12-21 13:27 ` Karl Voit
[not found] ` <WM!dd5bd1ff96755a23a0384200326165bb89b1fc0144607ae0870bc4237fe325fe903cdff298d097ecb318c066c7b3726c!@mailhub-mx1.ncl.ac.uk>
2016-12-21 14:55 ` Phillip Lord
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