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From: Reuben Thomas <rrt@sc3d.org>
To: Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com>
Cc: "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>, aaermolov@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Remove Org from Emacs repository?
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2016 23:32:22 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAOnWdohoUWbDM3GQ2KZVAu1NaKu60-jB4+_E3z6JXPWeG+_NVA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJcAo8sfKSGGEujoxaQbQVtbWSiU_G+0SLuhWW3n019kEQ+E2w@mail.gmail.com>

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On 18 December 2016 at 19:21, Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com> wrote:

> auto-mode-alist has more than 200 entries.  we're gonna remove .org?
>

​Org is nearly 90kLOC, or about 6.5% of the total ELisp code currently in
Emacs. It's bigger than CEDET, smaller than GNUS.

It's a project of its own with its own release cadence. It would be good to
make Emacs less of a monolithic entity, which needs lengthy debugging
cycles between releases, and has to choose between being out of date with
various upstreams, or delaying to test integration of big packages.

Now that package.el is mature, there's no need for Emacs to include all
this stuff in its source releases.

What emacs -Q does is a different matter: there's plenty of scope to ship a
variety of packages "out of the box". Various customised Emacs
"distributions" already do this.

"you must install org to view this format" is a bit too minimal for my
> taste.  :)  sounds like adobe flash.  :)
>

​I'm sure plenty of Emacs users never open an Org-mode file. Why​ should
they have to install it?

surely this topic was raised to have a bit of fun seeing all the
> responses?  :)
>

​No, I was just testing the waters to see if a more modern approach to
development and distribution might be popular. Apparently the answer is, at
least, not yet!

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-12-18 23:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-17 22:43 Remove Org from Emacs repository? Reuben Thomas
2016-12-18  9:22 ` aaermolov
2016-12-18 13:20   ` Carsten Dominik
2016-12-18 13:59     ` Rasmus
2016-12-18 14:41     ` Greg Troxel
2016-12-18 15:53       ` Kaushal Modi
2016-12-18 17:01     ` Reuben Thomas
     [not found]       ` <WM!f754fa008f759b442796c83f07a493b80e9d7ae4298a54f3fabf6b50a6e8ba9da1d361e87e441eae1fe9b1deeb824e68!@mailhub-mx3.ncl.ac.uk>
2016-12-19 15:32         ` Phillip Lord
2016-12-19 15:45           ` Reuben Thomas
2016-12-18 17:11     ` Christian Moe
2016-12-18 18:46       ` Xebar Saram
2016-12-18 19:08         ` Lambda Coder
2016-12-19 18:09     ` Scott Randby
2016-12-18 19:21   ` Samuel Wales
2016-12-18 23:32     ` Reuben Thomas [this message]
2016-12-19  1:36       ` MaDhAt2r
2016-12-19 10:42       ` Achim Gratz
     [not found]         ` <WM!759fdf23a4a1bd7b46432ee60644e52fd7beb44781fd97109e1d38080c6611cbecaf3bf7f1ea49cdc6a1823f1a9663ec!@mailhub-mx4.ncl.ac.uk>
2016-12-19 17:14           ` Phillip Lord
2016-12-19 18:53             ` Achim Gratz
     [not found]               ` <WM!fdb65752b64ef5461efbcb948e173a504edcf68a88cb151b38f9292793a941a33217a0cc771607f86b8962c90b171694!@mailhub-mx4.ncl.ac.uk>
2016-12-20 10:13                 ` Phillip Lord
2017-01-16  8:36       ` Erik Colson
2016-12-19  1:52 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2016-12-19  4:42   ` Maria Shinoto
2016-12-20 20:07   ` Preventing Org from being installed by elpa (was: Remove Org from Emacs repository?) Karl Voit
2016-12-21  9:47     ` Preventing Org from being installed by elpa Christian Wittern
2016-12-21 13:25       ` Karl Voit
2016-12-21 23:06         ` Christian Wittern
     [not found]     ` <WM!fbba205c161c2d01739b0e77a8ccc521b0d6b80e8ba4b6108c74becbbd57ccbdb4003d644b63e3c98578a5b823582b17!@mailhub-mx3.ncl.ac.uk>
2016-12-21 12:40       ` Phillip Lord
2016-12-21 13:27         ` Karl Voit
     [not found]           ` <WM!dd5bd1ff96755a23a0384200326165bb89b1fc0144607ae0870bc4237fe325fe903cdff298d097ecb318c066c7b3726c!@mailhub-mx1.ncl.ac.uk>
2016-12-21 14:55             ` Phillip Lord

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