From: aaermolov@gmail.com
To: Reuben Thomas <rrt@sc3d.org>,
"emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Remove Org from Emacs repository?
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2016 12:22:01 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <871sx5pp6u.fsf@laptoptop.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOnWdojLjGDAj2gbBmyg9HZBPYLqDHo4FFBW=0cMfAgMf98oFQ@mail.gmail.com>
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2 cents from me...
Besides I continuously see many users praising Emacs just for Org
presence (they even may be completely non-technical users), I'm
personally think Org may be removed from Emacs distribution because:
1) all Reuben's argument seems sane;
2) there are situations when someone wants particular version of Org,
and it may be not tne one bundled with Emacs. In this case someone
should perform extra steps to ensure things are going the right way.
When Org will be available only from ELPA, it will be SPOT for such cases.
Reuben Thomas <rrt@sc3d.org> writes:
> Now that Emacs has had package.el for some years, and Org is installable
> directly from GNU ELPA, would it be a good idea to remove Org from Emacs's
> source repository?
>
> The current situation is left over from before Emacs had package.el, and I
> see no compelling reason to keep it. Org is too big and distinct to be
> swallowed by Emacs; it doesn't make much sense to keep its current half-in,
> half-out state; so logically it seems sensible to take it out.
>
> I am asking this question from an Org point of view; I will ask the Emacs
> maintainers separately for their perspective.
>
> I think it would benefit Emacs too, as there would be less code to maintain
> (even though Org is quasi-external at present, it still has to build
> successfully as part of an Emacs build), and the Emacs distribution would
> be slimmer for non-Org users.
>
> Of course, Emacs "distributions" would still be able to include Org
> out-of-the box if they wished.
>
> --
> http://rrt.sc3d.org
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Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-12-17 22:43 Remove Org from Emacs repository? Reuben Thomas
2016-12-18 9:22 ` aaermolov [this message]
2016-12-18 13:20 ` Carsten Dominik
2016-12-18 13:59 ` Rasmus
2016-12-18 14:41 ` Greg Troxel
2016-12-18 15:53 ` Kaushal Modi
2016-12-18 17:01 ` Reuben Thomas
[not found] ` <WM!f754fa008f759b442796c83f07a493b80e9d7ae4298a54f3fabf6b50a6e8ba9da1d361e87e441eae1fe9b1deeb824e68!@mailhub-mx3.ncl.ac.uk>
2016-12-19 15:32 ` Phillip Lord
2016-12-19 15:45 ` Reuben Thomas
2016-12-18 17:11 ` Christian Moe
2016-12-18 18:46 ` Xebar Saram
2016-12-18 19:08 ` Lambda Coder
2016-12-19 18:09 ` Scott Randby
2016-12-18 19:21 ` Samuel Wales
2016-12-18 23:32 ` Reuben Thomas
2016-12-19 1:36 ` MaDhAt2r
2016-12-19 10:42 ` Achim Gratz
[not found] ` <WM!759fdf23a4a1bd7b46432ee60644e52fd7beb44781fd97109e1d38080c6611cbecaf3bf7f1ea49cdc6a1823f1a9663ec!@mailhub-mx4.ncl.ac.uk>
2016-12-19 17:14 ` Phillip Lord
2016-12-19 18:53 ` Achim Gratz
[not found] ` <WM!fdb65752b64ef5461efbcb948e173a504edcf68a88cb151b38f9292793a941a33217a0cc771607f86b8962c90b171694!@mailhub-mx4.ncl.ac.uk>
2016-12-20 10:13 ` Phillip Lord
2017-01-16 8:36 ` Erik Colson
2016-12-19 1:52 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2016-12-19 4:42 ` Maria Shinoto
2016-12-20 20:07 ` Preventing Org from being installed by elpa (was: Remove Org from Emacs repository?) Karl Voit
2016-12-21 9:47 ` Preventing Org from being installed by elpa Christian Wittern
2016-12-21 13:25 ` Karl Voit
2016-12-21 23:06 ` Christian Wittern
[not found] ` <WM!fbba205c161c2d01739b0e77a8ccc521b0d6b80e8ba4b6108c74becbbd57ccbdb4003d644b63e3c98578a5b823582b17!@mailhub-mx3.ncl.ac.uk>
2016-12-21 12:40 ` Phillip Lord
2016-12-21 13:27 ` Karl Voit
[not found] ` <WM!dd5bd1ff96755a23a0384200326165bb89b1fc0144607ae0870bc4237fe325fe903cdff298d097ecb318c066c7b3726c!@mailhub-mx1.ncl.ac.uk>
2016-12-21 14:55 ` Phillip Lord
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