From: Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Remove Org from Emacs repository?
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2016 17:52:46 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87h960wuq9.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: CAOnWdojLjGDAj2gbBmyg9HZBPYLqDHo4FFBW=0cMfAgMf98oFQ@mail.gmail.com
Reuben Thomas <rrt@sc3d.org> writes:
> Now that Emacs has had package.el for some years, and Org is
> installable directly from GNU ELPA, would it be a good idea to remove
> Org from Emacs's source repository?
I think the fact that this is an issue at all is an indication of a
shortcoming in Emacs' package-management system. I wish package
management happened "invisibly" (ie, (package-initialize) happened all
by itself). Emacs then would come bundled with certain packages -- Org,
Dired, Gnus, Tramp, etc.
If a user were totally unaware of the existence of packages, those
packages would only get updated when Emacs was updated.
If a user were package-savvy, he/she could open up the package manager,
which would provide the option to update those packages, or remove them
altogether. My personal opinion is that Emacs should lean more towards
"batteries included", but offer a slimming option for users who
understand packages.
Right now I apparently have two copies of Org installed -- the Emacs
bundle, and org-plus-contrib from the package repos. Actually, I have a
third: the plain old Org package from the package repos, because I've
installed other packages that require it. (Another gripe: why isn't the
loading of a file containing (provide 'org) enough to tell the package
manager not to install another one?)
And actually a fourth: Org from git. Again, if the package manager were
satisfied by finding a (provide 'org) in my loaded code-base, this might
be the only copy necessary.
All this is just to say, I wish this were an argument we didn't have to
have.
E
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-12-19 1:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-12-17 22:43 Remove Org from Emacs repository? Reuben Thomas
2016-12-18 9:22 ` aaermolov
2016-12-18 13:20 ` Carsten Dominik
2016-12-18 13:59 ` Rasmus
2016-12-18 14:41 ` Greg Troxel
2016-12-18 15:53 ` Kaushal Modi
2016-12-18 17:01 ` Reuben Thomas
[not found] ` <WM!f754fa008f759b442796c83f07a493b80e9d7ae4298a54f3fabf6b50a6e8ba9da1d361e87e441eae1fe9b1deeb824e68!@mailhub-mx3.ncl.ac.uk>
2016-12-19 15:32 ` Phillip Lord
2016-12-19 15:45 ` Reuben Thomas
2016-12-18 17:11 ` Christian Moe
2016-12-18 18:46 ` Xebar Saram
2016-12-18 19:08 ` Lambda Coder
2016-12-19 18:09 ` Scott Randby
2016-12-18 19:21 ` Samuel Wales
2016-12-18 23:32 ` Reuben Thomas
2016-12-19 1:36 ` MaDhAt2r
2016-12-19 10:42 ` Achim Gratz
[not found] ` <WM!759fdf23a4a1bd7b46432ee60644e52fd7beb44781fd97109e1d38080c6611cbecaf3bf7f1ea49cdc6a1823f1a9663ec!@mailhub-mx4.ncl.ac.uk>
2016-12-19 17:14 ` Phillip Lord
2016-12-19 18:53 ` Achim Gratz
[not found] ` <WM!fdb65752b64ef5461efbcb948e173a504edcf68a88cb151b38f9292793a941a33217a0cc771607f86b8962c90b171694!@mailhub-mx4.ncl.ac.uk>
2016-12-20 10:13 ` Phillip Lord
2017-01-16 8:36 ` Erik Colson
2016-12-19 1:52 ` Eric Abrahamsen [this message]
2016-12-19 4:42 ` Maria Shinoto
2016-12-20 20:07 ` Preventing Org from being installed by elpa (was: Remove Org from Emacs repository?) Karl Voit
2016-12-21 9:47 ` Preventing Org from being installed by elpa Christian Wittern
2016-12-21 13:25 ` Karl Voit
2016-12-21 23:06 ` Christian Wittern
[not found] ` <WM!fbba205c161c2d01739b0e77a8ccc521b0d6b80e8ba4b6108c74becbbd57ccbdb4003d644b63e3c98578a5b823582b17!@mailhub-mx3.ncl.ac.uk>
2016-12-21 12:40 ` Phillip Lord
2016-12-21 13:27 ` Karl Voit
[not found] ` <WM!dd5bd1ff96755a23a0384200326165bb89b1fc0144607ae0870bc4237fe325fe903cdff298d097ecb318c066c7b3726c!@mailhub-mx1.ncl.ac.uk>
2016-12-21 14:55 ` Phillip Lord
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