From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: aaermolov@gmail.com Subject: Re: Remove Org from Emacs repository? Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2016 12:22:01 +0300 Message-ID: <871sx5pp6u.fsf@laptoptop.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43582) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cIXfY-0001ge-Q2 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Dec 2016 04:22:14 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cIXfU-0002YK-Qh for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Dec 2016 04:22:12 -0500 Received: from mail-lf0-x242.google.com ([2a00:1450:4010:c07::242]:34285) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1cIXfU-0002Y4-Ip for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Dec 2016 04:22:08 -0500 Received: by mail-lf0-x242.google.com with SMTP id 30so3393177lfy.1 for ; Sun, 18 Dec 2016 01:22:07 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" To: Reuben Thomas , "emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 2 cents from me... Besides I continuously see many users praising Emacs just for Org presence (they even may be completely non-technical users), I'm personally think Org may be removed from Emacs distribution because: 1) all Reuben's argument seems sane; 2) there are situations when someone wants particular version of Org, and it may be not tne one bundled with Emacs. In this case someone should perform extra steps to ensure things are going the right way. When Org will be available only from ELPA, it will be SPOT for such case= s.=20=20 Reuben Thomas writes: > Now that Emacs has had package.el for some years, and Org is installable > directly from GNU ELPA, would it be a good idea to remove Org from Emacs's > source repository? > > The current situation is left over from before Emacs had package.el, and I > see no compelling reason to keep it. Org is too big and distinct to be > swallowed by Emacs; it doesn't make much sense to keep its current half-i= n, > half-out state; so logically it seems sensible to take it out. > > I am asking this question from an Org point of view; I will ask the Emacs > maintainers separately for their perspective. > > I think it would benefit Emacs too, as there would be less code to mainta= in > (even though Org is quasi-external at present, it still has to build > successfully as part of an Emacs build), and the Emacs distribution would > be slimmer for non-Org users. > > Of course, Emacs "distributions" would still be able to include Org > out-of-the box if they wished. > > --=20 > http://rrt.sc3d.org --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEB3ti1VTUGbnAlLnVmGVYjLx0AQMFAlhWVToACgkQmGVYjLx0 AQPakgf8C7/yBT8gWPTUH82kzfXmwJxp8nibI6j0pzRA/9f+MzRfTKQ1aBtivZia nCk6rE22OgH0nxhoI+L41EJDAyPKuo7NeUvVFv4GOGYG9Tcs2mVIlu717Rao23+c yNLNJ5VZ5LORI6GXSq+iqjlliWFNsUCAqYmfQRJlcIasfXNIAqWkrkFv4gapPDEM xcO1tGmxzrRfN+azKUryFnVG0uVJ7gTecI7rN9XXhR/Eisdnf8FhMD8uvjo+0EIs EnyVMOyET/tO6eCKcEDv68XM1QoTWVDTEZsKbuFoi2RxaaQZbghC/PydhnuyibCB UlP+RJR0ZOmTCeFla0Q2muE1fZyOSw== =lYln -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--