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From: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com>
To: Marco Wahl <marcowahlsoft@gmail.com>
Cc: Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com>, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] [BUG] Org 9.5: org-goto UI seems broken
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2021 09:35:03 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87o87tso54.fsf@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87czoaug5x.fsf@gmail.com>

Marco Wahl <marcowahlsoft@gmail.com> writes:

> My feeling is that the "protection" is good intention but brings more
> harm than good.  I think it's not a good idea to enforce a certain
> window setting.  I guess the knowing user has an easier path to fine
> tune the org-goto user interface when there is less "protection".

I fully agree. That was the motivation behind removing
dislpay-buffer-alist in 399481bad1. It is indeed not a good idea to
overwrite user customisations. They can be deliberate. For example, see
https://orgmode.org/list/87h7ij12t8.fsf@localhost

Max Nikulin <manikulin@gmail.com> writes:
> However current version of macro does not protect against
> 
>    (setq display-buffer-base-action
> 	 '((display-buffer-reuse-window display-buffer-pop-up-frame)
> 	   (reusable-frames . 0)))
> 
> The example is taken from (info "(elisp) Choosing Window Options"). I 
> have no idea if such customization can be considered as shooting a foot.

display-buffer-base-action, if customised by user, can later be
fine-tuned using display-buffer-alist. If necessary, the user can easily
add org-goto popup as an exception. At least, it is my understanding
from reading docs.

However, pop-up-frames and pop-up-windows are different beasts. They
cannot be fine-tuned by the user to not affect org-goto.  AFAIK, the
only way for the user to overcome the problem would be advicing
org-goto.

> Summary: The org-goto interface today is somewhat broken.  I vote for
> taking the occasion and kicking out the macro org-no-popups entirely.
> This way the org-goto interface is functional AFAICS.  If problems occur
> on that path we'll take care and action.
>
> Do you agree?

My second version of the patch also fixes org-goto interface :)
On the other hand, kicking org-no-popups macro completely may be an
option. pop-up-windows and pop-up-frames are obsolete and should not be
used anymore.

Also, a compromise could be changing org-no-popups to just
(let (pop-up-frames) ...)

WDYT?

Best,
Ihor


  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-13  1:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-10-05  6:31 Adam Porter
2021-10-05 11:35 ` Max Nikulin
2021-10-05 12:45   ` [PATCH] " Ihor Radchenko
2021-10-05 12:52     ` Adam Porter
2021-10-05 14:49     ` Max Nikulin
2021-10-05 16:32       ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-10-07 16:14         ` Max Nikulin
2021-10-08 10:22           ` Marco Wahl
2021-10-12 14:59             ` Max Nikulin
2021-10-12 20:58               ` Marco Wahl
2021-10-13  1:35                 ` Ihor Radchenko [this message]
2021-10-13  9:44                   ` Marco Wahl
2021-10-13 12:23                     ` Max Nikulin
2021-10-13 12:35                       ` Eric S Fraga
2021-10-14  9:54                         ` Marco Wahl
2021-10-14 10:16                           ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-10-14 15:44                             ` Max Nikulin
2021-10-15 16:37                               ` Max Nikulin
2021-10-16  6:52                                 ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-10-17 16:35                                   ` Max Nikulin
2021-10-18  9:25                                     ` Eric S Fraga
2021-10-18 16:53                                       ` Max Nikulin
2021-10-19  7:45                                         ` Eric S Fraga
2021-10-05 12:48   ` Adam Porter

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