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From: Bastien <bzg@gnu.org>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: [POLL] Should Org tempo be enabled by default? (expand templates thru e.g. "<s[TAB]")
Date: Sun, 29 Apr 2018 12:24:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87lgd671k7.fsf@bzg.fr> (raw)

Hi Nicolas,

I enabled org-tempo by default in commit 71ad7d1 ("org.el: Add
org-tempo to the list of default modules") and I completed the
commit message with this explanation:

  "Template expansion is likely to be expected by many users, as it was
  on by default in previous releases.  Let's load org-tempo by default
  and let users remove it.  If needed, we can remove this in future
  releases."

I meant "Template expansion through typing <sTAB" of course.

You seem to disagree as you just disabled Org tempo in commit 4c13d0a
("Do not load Org Tempo by default"), saying:

  "Org Tempo is a backward compatible substitute for the new expansion
  mechanism.  It is only available for either die-hard "<s" users or
  power users that need advanced templates."

So we seem to disagree here.  I think org-tempo should be enabled by
default because "<s" is really much more convenient than having to pop
up a big menu from a new keybinding and select a key there.  Also, I
don't think what's inconvenient in enabling this by default and I see
how users of 9.2 will be confused by losing the "<s" feature.

I wonder what users on this list think, maybe I'm wrong.

Should the old expansion mechanism "<s" be enabled by default?

-- 
 Bastien

             reply	other threads:[~2018-04-29 10:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-29 10:24 Bastien [this message]
2018-04-29 10:50 ` [POLL] Should Org tempo be enabled by default? (expand templates thru e.g. "<s[TAB]") Nicolas Goaziou
2018-04-29 11:05   ` Bastien
2018-04-29 12:01     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-04-29 13:22       ` Bastien
2018-04-29 17:40         ` Thomas S. Dye
2018-04-29 20:56           ` Bastien
2018-04-29 22:05             ` Tim Cross
2018-04-29 22:31               ` Bastien
2018-04-29 22:27         ` Tim Cross
2018-04-29 23:03           ` Bastien
2018-04-30 10:29             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-04-30 14:03               ` Kevin Foley
2018-04-30 14:17                 ` Kevin Foley
2018-05-05 17:20                 ` Rasmus
2018-05-02 12:43             ` Bernt Hansen
2018-05-08  6:23               ` Bastien
2018-05-05 17:17             ` Rasmus
2018-05-08  6:27               ` Bastien
2018-05-01 15:49           ` Aaron Ecay
2018-05-01 19:31             ` Eric S Fraga
2018-05-02  9:10             ` Rasmus Pank Roulund
2018-05-02 17:12               ` Aaron Ecay
2018-05-05 17:29                 ` Rasmus
2018-05-06 20:02                   ` Aaron Ecay
2018-05-07 22:53                     ` Rasmus
2018-05-08  0:57                       ` Aaron Ecay
2018-05-08  6:56                         ` Bastien
2018-05-21 14:24                         ` Rasmus
2018-05-08  6:52                   ` Bastien
2018-05-21 14:19                     ` Rasmus
2018-05-08  6:49                 ` Smooth transition for modules (was: [POLL] Should Org tempo be enabled by default? (expand templates thru e.g. "<s[TAB]")) Bastien
2018-05-08  9:26                   ` Aaron Ecay
2018-05-08  9:46                     ` Smooth transition for modules Bastien
2018-05-08 13:28                       ` Aaron Ecay
2018-05-08  6:34             ` [POLL] Should Org tempo be enabled by default? (expand templates thru e.g. "<s[TAB]") Bastien
2018-04-30  8:47         ` Eric S Fraga
2018-05-08  8:37       ` Bastien
2018-04-29 13:24     ` Christian Moe
2018-04-29 13:55     ` Charles Millar
2018-04-29 19:08     ` Diego Zamboni
2018-04-29 20:30       ` Rasmus
2018-04-29 20:44       ` Bastien
2018-04-29 23:32     ` Bernt Hansen
2018-05-02 20:24       ` Bernt Hansen
2018-05-03  9:44         ` Carsten Dominik
2018-05-03 13:30           ` William Denton
2018-05-04  7:34             ` Neil Jerram
2018-05-04  7:45               ` Bastien
2018-05-05  1:37                 ` Samuel Wales
2018-05-05  2:16                   ` Tim Cross
2018-05-05  2:28                     ` Samuel Wales
2018-05-05  2:37                       ` Tim Cross
2018-05-05 12:42                         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-05-05 17:33                     ` Rasmus
2018-05-01 11:57     ` Nick Helm
2018-04-29 20:25   ` Rasmus
2018-04-29 21:53     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-05-02  9:03       ` Rasmus
2018-04-30 16:36 ` Steve Downey
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-04-29 15:06 Jon Snader
2018-04-30 20:37 ` Richard Lawrence
2018-04-30 20:46   ` Peter Dewey Ore
2018-04-30 21:33     ` Michael Gauland
2018-04-30 21:46   ` Jon Snader
2018-04-30 22:25     ` Tim Cross
2018-04-30 22:35       ` Cook, Malcolm
2018-04-30 22:39       ` Jon Snader
2018-04-30 22:49         ` Kaushal Modi
2018-05-01  1:29           ` Alan Tyree
2018-05-01 14:07             ` Christophe Schockaert
2018-05-01  2:00         ` Tim Cross
2018-05-01  2:27           ` Steve Downey
2018-05-01 12:35             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-05-01 16:28               ` Aaron Ecay
2018-05-05 18:07                 ` Rasmus
2018-05-06 20:34                   ` Aaron Ecay
2018-05-06 22:11                     ` Tim Cross
2018-05-07 22:30                     ` Rasmus
2018-05-08  0:25                       ` Aaron Ecay
2018-05-08  7:36                         ` Bastien
2018-05-13 20:52                         ` Rasmus
2018-05-01 16:54               ` Cook, Malcolm
2018-05-05 18:01               ` Rasmus
2018-05-06  5:00                 ` Carsten Dominik
2018-05-07 22:33                   ` Rasmus
2018-05-08  7:37                 ` Bastien
2018-05-21 14:35                   ` Rasmus
2018-05-05 23:26               ` Adrian Bradd
2018-05-05 23:37                 ` Josiah Schwab
2018-05-08  7:31               ` Bastien

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