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From: Tim Cross <theophilusx@gmail.com>
To: Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com>
Cc: Bastien <bzg@gnu.org>, William Denton <wtd@pobox.com>,
	Neil Jerram <neil@ossau.homelinux.net>,
	org-mode list <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [POLL] Should Org tempo be enabled by default? (expand templates thru e.g. "<s[TAB]")
Date: Sat, 05 May 2018 12:37:12 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87h8nm7rqf.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJcAo8tTL6zmj2w_8+ZWmr45UZmckMsV4q-OWCKjaGcOc1wAoQ@mail.gmail.com>


I guess it is a balancing act. On one level, org's tendency to use
'smart' key bindings in which behaviour/action changes depending on
context is convenient, but on the other hand, I suspect it makes things
more complicated, which usually means harder to get right or maintain.

The C-c , binding is in line with expansion/templates in other modes (at
least in my configuration), so there is little cognitive overhead when I
want to expand "something".


Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com> writes:

> if there is a block there, you probably don't want to create a block.
> if it is not there, you probably want to create one.
>
> was my thinking.  incorrect?
>
> On 5/4/18, Tim Cross <theophilusx@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> won't that conflict with the key binding for block editing mode?
>>
>> Also, I think C-c , is possibly more in-line with other
>> template/expansion commands in other modes.
>>
>> Of course, being emacs, anyone can change it to suit personal
>> preferences!
>>
>> Samuel Wales <samologist@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> is there a reason why the binding cannot be c-c '?
>>>
>>> On 5/4/18, Bastien <bzg@gnu.org> wrote:
>>>> Hi Neil,
>>>>
>>>> Neil Jerram <neil@ossau.homelinux.net> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> How can I see and try this famous C-c C-, ?  I'm running:
>>>>>
>>>>>   Org mode version 9.1.12 (9.1.12-1-g388254-elpa @
>>>>>   /home/neil/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20180430/)
>>>>
>>>> The new structure template mechanism will be part of the next major
>>>> Org release (9.2).  You can test it by cloning the master branch of
>>>> Org's repository.
>>>>
>>>> Check https://orgmode.org/manual/Installation.html#Installation
>>>>
>>>> HTH,
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>  Bastien
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Tim Cross
>>


-- 
Tim Cross

  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-05  2:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-29 10:24 [POLL] Should Org tempo be enabled by default? (expand templates thru e.g. "<s[TAB]") Bastien
2018-04-29 10:50 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-04-29 11:05   ` Bastien
2018-04-29 12:01     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-04-29 13:22       ` Bastien
2018-04-29 17:40         ` Thomas S. Dye
2018-04-29 20:56           ` Bastien
2018-04-29 22:05             ` Tim Cross
2018-04-29 22:31               ` Bastien
2018-04-29 22:27         ` Tim Cross
2018-04-29 23:03           ` Bastien
2018-04-30 10:29             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-04-30 14:03               ` Kevin Foley
2018-04-30 14:17                 ` Kevin Foley
2018-05-05 17:20                 ` Rasmus
2018-05-02 12:43             ` Bernt Hansen
2018-05-08  6:23               ` Bastien
2018-05-05 17:17             ` Rasmus
2018-05-08  6:27               ` Bastien
2018-05-01 15:49           ` Aaron Ecay
2018-05-01 19:31             ` Eric S Fraga
2018-05-02  9:10             ` Rasmus Pank Roulund
2018-05-02 17:12               ` Aaron Ecay
2018-05-05 17:29                 ` Rasmus
2018-05-06 20:02                   ` Aaron Ecay
2018-05-07 22:53                     ` Rasmus
2018-05-08  0:57                       ` Aaron Ecay
2018-05-08  6:56                         ` Bastien
2018-05-21 14:24                         ` Rasmus
2018-05-08  6:52                   ` Bastien
2018-05-21 14:19                     ` Rasmus
2018-05-08  6:49                 ` Smooth transition for modules (was: [POLL] Should Org tempo be enabled by default? (expand templates thru e.g. "<s[TAB]")) Bastien
2018-05-08  9:26                   ` Aaron Ecay
2018-05-08  9:46                     ` Smooth transition for modules Bastien
2018-05-08 13:28                       ` Aaron Ecay
2018-05-08  6:34             ` [POLL] Should Org tempo be enabled by default? (expand templates thru e.g. "<s[TAB]") Bastien
2018-04-30  8:47         ` Eric S Fraga
2018-05-08  8:37       ` Bastien
2018-04-29 13:24     ` Christian Moe
2018-04-29 13:55     ` Charles Millar
2018-04-29 19:08     ` Diego Zamboni
2018-04-29 20:30       ` Rasmus
2018-04-29 20:44       ` Bastien
2018-04-29 23:32     ` Bernt Hansen
2018-05-02 20:24       ` Bernt Hansen
2018-05-03  9:44         ` Carsten Dominik
2018-05-03 13:30           ` William Denton
2018-05-04  7:34             ` Neil Jerram
2018-05-04  7:45               ` Bastien
2018-05-05  1:37                 ` Samuel Wales
2018-05-05  2:16                   ` Tim Cross
2018-05-05  2:28                     ` Samuel Wales
2018-05-05  2:37                       ` Tim Cross [this message]
2018-05-05 12:42                         ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-05-05 17:33                     ` Rasmus
2018-05-01 11:57     ` Nick Helm
2018-04-29 20:25   ` Rasmus
2018-04-29 21:53     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-05-02  9:03       ` Rasmus
2018-04-30 16:36 ` Steve Downey
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-04-29 15:06 Jon Snader
2018-04-30 20:37 ` Richard Lawrence
2018-04-30 20:46   ` Peter Dewey Ore
2018-04-30 21:33     ` Michael Gauland
2018-04-30 21:46   ` Jon Snader
2018-04-30 22:25     ` Tim Cross
2018-04-30 22:35       ` Cook, Malcolm
2018-04-30 22:39       ` Jon Snader
2018-04-30 22:49         ` Kaushal Modi
2018-05-01  1:29           ` Alan Tyree
2018-05-01 14:07             ` Christophe Schockaert
2018-05-01  2:00         ` Tim Cross
2018-05-01  2:27           ` Steve Downey
2018-05-01 12:35             ` Nicolas Goaziou
2018-05-01 16:28               ` Aaron Ecay
2018-05-05 18:07                 ` Rasmus
2018-05-06 20:34                   ` Aaron Ecay
2018-05-06 22:11                     ` Tim Cross
2018-05-07 22:30                     ` Rasmus
2018-05-08  0:25                       ` Aaron Ecay
2018-05-08  7:36                         ` Bastien
2018-05-13 20:52                         ` Rasmus
2018-05-01 16:54               ` Cook, Malcolm
2018-05-05 18:01               ` Rasmus
2018-05-06  5:00                 ` Carsten Dominik
2018-05-07 22:33                   ` Rasmus
2018-05-08  7:37                 ` Bastien
2018-05-21 14:35                   ` Rasmus
2018-05-05 23:26               ` Adrian Bradd
2018-05-05 23:37                 ` Josiah Schwab
2018-05-08  7:31               ` Bastien

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