From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Tim Cross Subject: Re: [POLL] Should Org tempo be enabled by default? (expand templates thru e.g. " References: <87lgd671k7.fsf@bzg.fr> <87o9i2p9qq.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <87k1sq6znz.fsf@bzg.fr> <87tvrteggu.fsf@norang.ca> <87lgd1erg5.fsf@norang.ca> <877eoj98nj.fsf@ossau.homelinux.net> <87lgczyid9.fsf@gnu.org> <87in827sov.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:46803) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fEn4Z-0003DU-Tb for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 04 May 2018 22:37:20 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fEn4Y-0005wo-Ug for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 04 May 2018 22:37:19 -0400 In-reply-to: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" To: Samuel Wales Cc: Bastien , William Denton , Neil Jerram , org-mode list I guess it is a balancing act. On one level, org's tendency to use 'smart' key bindings in which behaviour/action changes depending on context is convenient, but on the other hand, I suspect it makes things more complicated, which usually means harder to get right or maintain. The C-c , binding is in line with expansion/templates in other modes (at least in my configuration), so there is little cognitive overhead when I want to expand "something". Samuel Wales writes: > if there is a block there, you probably don't want to create a block. > if it is not there, you probably want to create one. > > was my thinking. incorrect? > > On 5/4/18, Tim Cross wrote: >> >> won't that conflict with the key binding for block editing mode? >> >> Also, I think C-c , is possibly more in-line with other >> template/expansion commands in other modes. >> >> Of course, being emacs, anyone can change it to suit personal >> preferences! >> >> Samuel Wales writes: >> >>> is there a reason why the binding cannot be c-c '? >>> >>> On 5/4/18, Bastien wrote: >>>> Hi Neil, >>>> >>>> Neil Jerram writes: >>>> >>>>> How can I see and try this famous C-c C-, ? I'm running: >>>>> >>>>> Org mode version 9.1.12 (9.1.12-1-g388254-elpa @ >>>>> /home/neil/.emacs.d/elpa/org-20180430/) >>>> >>>> The new structure template mechanism will be part of the next major >>>> Org release (9.2). You can test it by cloning the master branch of >>>> Org's repository. >>>> >>>> Check https://orgmode.org/manual/Installation.html#Installation >>>> >>>> HTH, >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Bastien >>>> >>>> >> >> >> -- >> Tim Cross >> -- Tim Cross