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* org-cite: how to include a cite with no key?
@ 2021-07-19 23:28 Emmanuel Charpentier
  2021-07-20  0:47 ` John Kitchin
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread
From: Emmanuel Charpentier @ 2021-07-19 23:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: jkitchin, emacs-orgmode

> In natbib there is \citetext{priv.\ comm.} which is used to add a
> textual citation to the bibliography that doesn't have a key
> associated with it. 

Hmmm... why should you bother to reference a personal communication ?
Such private communications may be mentionned in the text (possibly by
a footnote) but can't be properly referenced (since there is nothing to
refer to). If you feel that this communication must be referred to, you
should give it some (written) support and (properly) reference this
support.

ISTR that at least CSL and BibLaTeX have types appropriates for a
manuscript or a letter. You may also consider your own notes as
documents and reference them (properly).

> I don't see a way to get something like that in org-cite, since it
> seems that a key is always required.

Indeed : the key is, in relational algebra terms, the primary key of
the bibliographic relation...

> This isn't currently recognized as a cite, but something like this
> seems like a reasonable solution to me.

> [cite/text:@ private communication]

Such special casing is probably a bugs' nest... err.. hive. And
pointless, as explained /supra/.

HTH,

--
Emmanuel Charpentier

> John



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* org-cite: how to include a cite with no key?
@ 2021-07-19 17:02 John Kitchin
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread
From: John Kitchin @ 2021-07-19 17:02 UTC (permalink / raw)
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In natbib there is \citetext{priv.\ comm.} which is used to add a textual
citation to the bibliography that doesn't have a key associated with it.

I don't see a way to get something like that in org-cite, since it seems
that a key is always required.

This isn't currently recognized as a cite, but something like this seems
like a reasonable solution to me.

[cite/text:@ private communication]

John

-----------------------------------
Professor John Kitchin (he/him/his)
Doherty Hall A207F
Department of Chemical Engineering
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA 15213
412-268-7803
@johnkitchin
http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu

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2021-07-20  7:31     ` Emmanuel Charpentier
2021-07-21 18:54       ` Matt Price
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