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From: "Bruce D'Arcus" <bdarcus@gmail.com>
To: Denis Maier <denismaier@mailbox.org>
Cc: Emmanuel Charpentier <emm.charpentier@free.fr>,
	emacs-orgmode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>,
	John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: org-cite: how to include a cite with no key?
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2021 09:50:03 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAF-FPGMqsJYy5CzhWwrAQS_4TNEu69MtTvbuOwe_GcpKoO+ryw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2bcd2053-539b-fc8a-7248-f1fe270855e2@mailbox.org>

On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 8:50 AM Denis Maier <denismaier@mailbox.org> wrote:

> > Certainly in the CSL world, this has never been supported, and I don't
> > ever recall it ever coming up (though I'm sure someone on the Zotero
> > forum raised it at some point)
> I'm pretty sure I've brought that up at some point :-)


> FWIW, Biblatex knows a similar command \mancite.
> Use cases:
> Beyond personal communication, which I personally have never used, there
> are disciplines (classics, theology, religious studies) that refer to
> some classical works (Bible, Quran, etc.) with certain well-known
> abbrevations. Usually those works don't appear in the bibliography.

The cases here a little different though.

This is basically work so well-known in a field that they are omitted
from the bibliography.

Effectively, the opposite of "nocite"; so "nobib"?

The example of personal communications that John raised is a little different.

I still think it's either a citation with a reference, or it's not;
just an in-text note.

> This leads to problems with automatic citations, especially when you also use
> "ibid." and such...
> Bla [cite:@doe].
> Blabla (Gen 1).
> Bla [cite:@doe].
> =>
> Bla (Doe 2020).
> Blabla (Gen 1).
> Bla (ibid.).
> With biblatex you can use \mancite to reset the citation trackers.

Can one workaround this now?

Or if not, by adding a "nobib" style per above at some point?


  reply	other threads:[~2021-07-20 13:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-19 23:28 org-cite: how to include a cite with no key? Emmanuel Charpentier
2021-07-20  0:47 ` John Kitchin
2021-07-20  6:55   ` Matt Price
2021-07-20  7:31     ` Emmanuel Charpentier
2021-07-21 18:54       ` Matt Price
2021-07-20  7:25   ` Emmanuel Charpentier
2021-07-20 11:41   ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-07-20 12:50     ` Denis Maier
2021-07-20 13:50       ` Bruce D'Arcus [this message]
2021-07-20 14:12         ` Denis Maier
2021-07-20 12:38   ` Stefan Nobis
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2021-07-19 17:02 John Kitchin

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