* More conspicous header lines
@ 2009-07-22 18:27 User
2009-07-22 18:35 ` Russell Adams
` (2 more replies)
0 siblings, 3 replies; 23+ messages in thread
From: User @ 2009-07-22 18:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Hi,
Please consider adding this change to org mode:
http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/OrgMode#toc11
It makes it possible to show headers as full lines to separate the
different sections better. It's only effective if the user set a
background color to the org header line face.
Here's a demo of how it looks in practice:
http://img19.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=86735_Clipboard01_122_582lo.jpg
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread* Re: More conspicous header lines 2009-07-22 18:27 More conspicous header lines User @ 2009-07-22 18:35 ` Russell Adams 2009-07-22 22:02 ` Markus Heller 2009-07-22 22:11 ` Bastien 2009-07-23 16:54 ` Bastien 2 siblings, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread From: Russell Adams @ 2009-07-22 18:35 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode I like! I may go change my faces to give it a whirl. On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 06:27:00PM +0000, User wrote: > Hi, > > Please consider adding this change to org mode: > > http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/OrgMode#toc11 > > > It makes it possible to show headers as full lines to separate the > different sections better. It's only effective if the user set a > background color to the org header line face. > > Here's a demo of how it looks in practice: > > http://img19.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=86735_Clipboard01_122_582lo.jpg > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > ------------------------------------------------------------------ Russell Adams RLAdams@AdamsInfoServ.com PGP Key ID: 0x1160DCB3 http://www.adamsinfoserv.com/ Fingerprint: 1723 D8CA 4280 1EC9 557F 66E8 1154 E018 1160 DCB3 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: More conspicous header lines 2009-07-22 18:35 ` Russell Adams @ 2009-07-22 22:02 ` Markus Heller 2009-07-22 22:12 ` Bastien 0 siblings, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread From: Markus Heller @ 2009-07-22 22:02 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode Russell Adams wrote: > I like! I may go change my faces to give it a whirl. > > On Wed, Jul 22, 2009 at 06:27:00PM +0000, User wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Please consider adding this change to org mode: >> >> http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/OrgMode#toc11 >> >> >> It makes it possible to show headers as full lines to separate the >> different sections better. It's only effective if the user set a >> background color to the org header line face. >> >> Here's a demo of how it looks in practice: >> >> http://img19.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=86735_Clipboard01_122_582lo.jpg Hello, how would I go about setting a background color to my org headline faces? I'm an emacs/org newbie ... Thanks Markus >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Emacs-orgmode mailing list >> Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. >> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Russell Adams RLAdams@AdamsInfoServ.com > > PGP Key ID: 0x1160DCB3 http://www.adamsinfoserv.com/ > > Fingerprint: 1723 D8CA 4280 1EC9 557F 66E8 1154 E018 1160 DCB3 > > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: More conspicous header lines 2009-07-22 22:02 ` Markus Heller @ 2009-07-22 22:12 ` Bastien 2009-07-22 22:48 ` Markus Heller 0 siblings, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread From: Bastien @ 2009-07-22 22:12 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Markus Heller; +Cc: emacs-orgmode Markus Heller <hellerm2@gmail.com> writes: > how would I go about setting a background color to my org headline > faces? I'm an emacs/org newbie ... Go on a headline and M-x customize-face RET - then you can customize the background color of this face. -- Bastien ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: More conspicous header lines 2009-07-22 22:12 ` Bastien @ 2009-07-22 22:48 ` Markus Heller 2009-07-23 7:31 ` Bastien 2009-07-23 14:51 ` Daniel Goldin 0 siblings, 2 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: Markus Heller @ 2009-07-22 22:48 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode THankBastien wrote: > Markus Heller <hellerm2@gmail.com> writes: > >> how would I go about setting a background color to my org headline >> faces? I'm an emacs/org newbie ... > > Go on a headline and M-x customize-face RET - then you can customize > the background color of this face. > Thanks. And where do I find ‘org-set-font-lock-defaults’? It's not in my .emacs, and M-x customize-variable <Ret> doesn't know it either ... I apologize if I'm asking stupid questions here ... Thanks Markus ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: More conspicous header lines 2009-07-22 22:48 ` Markus Heller @ 2009-07-23 7:31 ` Bastien 2009-07-23 16:29 ` Markus Heller 2009-07-23 14:51 ` Daniel Goldin 1 sibling, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread From: Bastien @ 2009-07-23 7:31 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Markus Heller; +Cc: emacs-orgmode Markus Heller <hellerm2@gmail.com> writes: > THankBastien wrote: >> Markus Heller <hellerm2@gmail.com> writes: >> >>> how would I go about setting a background color to my org headline >>> faces? I'm an emacs/org newbie ... >> >> Go on a headline and M-x customize-face RET - then you can customize >> the background color of this face. >> > > Thanks. And where do I find ‘org-set-font-lock-defaults’? It's not in > my .emacs, and M-x customize-variable <Ret> doesn't know it either ... It's in org.el C-h f org-set-font-lock-defaults RET will give you the location of the function, you can just follow the link in the help buffer. > I apologize if I'm asking stupid questions here ... "If you ask questions, you might look stupid. But if you don't ask questions, you'll stupid forever." -- I-can't-remember-who -- Bastien ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: More conspicous header lines 2009-07-23 7:31 ` Bastien @ 2009-07-23 16:29 ` Markus Heller 0 siblings, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: Markus Heller @ 2009-07-23 16:29 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode Bastien wrote: > Markus Heller <hellerm2@gmail.com> writes: > >> THankBastien wrote: >>> Markus Heller <hellerm2@gmail.com> writes: >>> >>>> how would I go about setting a background color to my org headline >>>> faces? I'm an emacs/org newbie ... >>> Go on a headline and M-x customize-face RET - then you can customize >>> the background color of this face. >>> >> Thanks. And where do I find ‘org-set-font-lock-defaults’? It's not in >> my .emacs, and M-x customize-variable <Ret> doesn't know it either ... > > It's in org.el > > C-h f org-set-font-lock-defaults RET will give you the location of the > function, you can just follow the link in the help buffer. > >> I apologize if I'm asking stupid questions here ... > > "If you ask questions, you might look stupid. But if you don't ask > questions, you'll stupid forever." > > -- I-can't-remember-who > Bastien, thanks you! Worked like a charm :) Cheers Markus ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: More conspicous header lines 2009-07-22 22:48 ` Markus Heller 2009-07-23 7:31 ` Bastien @ 2009-07-23 14:51 ` Daniel Goldin 2009-07-23 14:57 ` Bastien 1 sibling, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread From: Daniel Goldin @ 2009-07-23 14:51 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Markus Heller; +Cc: emacs-orgmode I'm a non-programmer type trying to figure this out too. I looked into customize faces and font-lock in org group and couldn't find anything. Anybody? d. On Wed, 22 Jul 2009, Markus Heller wrote: > THankBastien wrote: >> Markus Heller <hellerm2@gmail.com> writes: >> > > Thanks. And where do I find ‘org-set-font-lock-defaults’? It's not in > my .emacs, and M-x customize-variable <Ret> doesn't know it either ... > > I apologize if I'm asking stupid questions here ... > > Thanks > Markus > > > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode -- Daniel Goldin 213.026.1960 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: More conspicous header lines 2009-07-23 14:51 ` Daniel Goldin @ 2009-07-23 14:57 ` Bastien 0 siblings, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: Bastien @ 2009-07-23 14:57 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Markus Heller; +Cc: emacs-orgmode Hi Daniel, Daniel Goldin <danielgoldin@gmail.com> writes: > I'm a non-programmer type trying to figure this out too. I looked into > customize faces and font-lock in org group and couldn't find > anything. Anybody? What are you trying to do exactly? -- Bastien ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: More conspicous header lines 2009-07-22 18:27 More conspicous header lines User 2009-07-22 18:35 ` Russell Adams @ 2009-07-22 22:11 ` Bastien 2009-07-23 8:12 ` Rainer Stengele 2009-07-23 8:36 ` Paul Mead 2009-07-23 16:54 ` Bastien 2 siblings, 2 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: Bastien @ 2009-07-22 22:11 UTC (permalink / raw) To: User; +Cc: Lennart Borgman, emacs-orgmode User <spamfilteraccount@gmail.com > writes: > Please consider adding this change to org mode: > > http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/OrgMode#toc11 Funny that you mention this because Lennart just told me about this tip and I was about to ask Orgers. > http://img19.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=86735_Clipboard01_122_582lo.jpg Please people vote. It's a tiny change but since we all have different preferences for such things, it's good to have a sense of what everyone thinks... -- Bastien ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: More conspicous header lines 2009-07-22 22:11 ` Bastien @ 2009-07-23 8:12 ` Rainer Stengele 2009-07-23 8:36 ` Charles Philip Chan 2009-07-23 8:36 ` Paul Mead 1 sibling, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread From: Rainer Stengele @ 2009-07-23 8:12 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode Bastien schrieb: > User <spamfilteraccount@gmail.com > writes: > >> Please consider adding this change to org mode: >> >> http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/OrgMode#toc11 > > Funny that you mention this because Lennart just told me about this > tip and I was about to ask Orgers. > >> http://img19.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=86735_Clipboard01_122_582lo.jpg > > Please people vote. It's a tiny change but since we all have different > preferences for such things, it's good to have a sense of what everyone > thinks... > Looks good. My "+" vote then. Rainer ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: More conspicous header lines 2009-07-23 8:12 ` Rainer Stengele @ 2009-07-23 8:36 ` Charles Philip Chan 0 siblings, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: Charles Philip Chan @ 2009-07-23 8:36 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 473 bytes --] Rainer Stengele <rainer.stengele@diplan.de> writes: >> Please people vote. It's a tiny change but since we all have >> different preferences for such things, it's good to have a sense of >> what everyone thinks... >> > Looks good. > My "+" vote then. Agreed. A "+" vote for me too. Charles -- Your job is being a professor and researcher: That's one hell of a good excuse for some of the brain-damages of minix. (Linus Torvalds to Andrew Tanenbaum) [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 196 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 204 bytes --] _______________________________________________ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: More conspicous header lines 2009-07-22 22:11 ` Bastien 2009-07-23 8:12 ` Rainer Stengele @ 2009-07-23 8:36 ` Paul Mead 2009-07-23 8:43 ` Bastien 1 sibling, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread From: Paul Mead @ 2009-07-23 8:36 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode Bastien <bastienguerry@googlemail.com> writes: > > Please people vote. It's a tiny change but since we all have different > preferences for such things, it's good to have a sense of what everyone > thinks... What are we voting for, to make this *possible* or *default*? Paul ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: More conspicous header lines 2009-07-23 8:36 ` Paul Mead @ 2009-07-23 8:43 ` Bastien 2009-07-23 9:01 ` Paul Mead ` (5 more replies) 0 siblings, 6 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: Bastien @ 2009-07-23 8:43 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Paul Mead; +Cc: emacs-orgmode Paul Mead <paul.d.mead@gmail.com> writes: > Bastien <bastienguerry@googlemail.com> writes: > >> >> Please people vote. It's a tiny change but since we all have different >> preferences for such things, it's good to have a sense of what everyone >> thinks... > > What are we voting for, to make this *possible* or *default*? Default. -- Bastien ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: More conspicous header lines 2009-07-23 8:43 ` Bastien @ 2009-07-23 9:01 ` Paul Mead 2009-07-23 9:04 ` Bastien ` (4 subsequent siblings) 5 siblings, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: Paul Mead @ 2009-07-23 9:01 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode Bastien <bastienguerry@googlemail.com> writes: > Paul Mead <paul.d.mead@gmail.com> writes: > >> Bastien <bastienguerry@googlemail.com> writes: >> >>> >>> Please people vote. It's a tiny change but since we all have different >>> preferences for such things, it's good to have a sense of what everyone >>> thinks... >> >> What are we voting for, to make this *possible* or *default*? > > Default. OK, I don't personally like the look of it, so I'd probably turn it off, so assuming that's an option, why not? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: More conspicous header lines 2009-07-23 8:43 ` Bastien 2009-07-23 9:01 ` Paul Mead @ 2009-07-23 9:04 ` Bastien 2009-07-23 9:56 ` Giovanni Ridolfi ` (3 subsequent siblings) 5 siblings, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: Bastien @ 2009-07-23 9:04 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode Bastien <bastienguerry@googlemail.com> writes: > Paul Mead <paul.d.mead@gmail.com> writes: > >> Bastien <bastienguerry@googlemail.com> writes: >> >>> >>> Please people vote. It's a tiny change but since we all have different >>> preferences for such things, it's good to have a sense of what everyone >>> thinks... >> >> What are we voting for, to make this *possible* or *default*? > > Default. FWIW: my reticence to make this the default is that for some function (e.g. org-agenda-set-restriction-lock) Org highlights headings and in these cases, Org only highlights to the end of the heading, not to the end of the entire line. These kind of functions highlight the headings *temporarily* so I think it's okay to permanently highlight the entire line when org-level-* has a background value... but maybe it somehow breaks visual consistency, I'm not sure. -- Bastien ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: More conspicous header lines 2009-07-23 8:43 ` Bastien 2009-07-23 9:01 ` Paul Mead 2009-07-23 9:04 ` Bastien @ 2009-07-23 9:56 ` Giovanni Ridolfi 2009-07-23 10:20 ` User ` (2 subsequent siblings) 5 siblings, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: Giovanni Ridolfi @ 2009-07-23 9:56 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Paul Mead, Bastien; +Cc: emacs-orgmode --- Gio 23/7/09, Bastien <bastienguerry@googlemail.com> ha scritto: > Paul Mead <paul.d.mead@gmail.com> writes: > > > Bastien <bastienguerry@googlemail.com> > writes: > > > >> > >> Please people vote. It's a tiny change but > >> since we all have different > >> preferences for such things, it's good to have a > >> sense of what everyone thinks... > > > > What are we voting for, to make this *possible* or > *default*? > > Default. > No. (-) ?-) Cheers, Giovanni ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: More conspicous header lines 2009-07-23 8:43 ` Bastien ` (2 preceding siblings ...) 2009-07-23 9:56 ` Giovanni Ridolfi @ 2009-07-23 10:20 ` User 2009-07-23 11:36 ` Bastien 2009-07-23 12:19 ` Matthew Lundin 2009-07-23 13:56 ` Nick Dokos 5 siblings, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread From: User @ 2009-07-23 10:20 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode Bastien <bastienguerry <at> googlemail.com> writes: > > > > What are we voting for, to make this *possible* or *default*? > > Default. > This may mislead some people. Adding this fix wouldn't change how headers look by default. It would only make it possible to draw header lines across the screen *if* the user sets a background color for the header which is not usually the case, so it wouldn't affect the average user if he doesn't want it. Anyway, if we want to be super cautious then I recommend an option for controlling this. If the option is set then the \xa is added to the header regexp, otherwise not. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: More conspicous header lines 2009-07-23 10:20 ` User @ 2009-07-23 11:36 ` Bastien 0 siblings, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: Bastien @ 2009-07-23 11:36 UTC (permalink / raw) To: User; +Cc: emacs-orgmode User <spamfilteraccount@gmail.com> writes: > Bastien <bastienguerry <at> googlemail.com> writes: > >> > >> > What are we voting for, to make this *possible* or *default*? >> >> Default. > > > This may mislead some people. Adding this fix wouldn't change how > headers look by default. It would only make it possible to draw > header lines across the screen *if* the user sets a background > color for the header which is not usually the case, so it > wouldn't affect the average user if he doesn't want it. Yes, thanks for precising this. > Anyway, if we want to be super cautious then I recommend an > option for controlling this. If the option is set then the \xa is > added to the header regexp, otherwise not. I think I will take this road, yes. -- Bastien ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: More conspicous header lines 2009-07-23 8:43 ` Bastien ` (3 preceding siblings ...) 2009-07-23 10:20 ` User @ 2009-07-23 12:19 ` Matthew Lundin 2009-07-23 13:56 ` Nick Dokos 5 siblings, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: Matthew Lundin @ 2009-07-23 12:19 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Bastien; +Cc: emacs-orgmode, Paul Mead Bastien <bastienguerry@googlemail.com> writes: > Paul Mead <paul.d.mead@gmail.com> writes: > >> Bastien <bastienguerry@googlemail.com> writes: >> >>> >>> Please people vote. It's a tiny change but since we all have different >>> preferences for such things, it's good to have a sense of what everyone >>> thinks... >> >> What are we voting for, to make this *possible* or *default*? > > Default. -1 for default. I wouldn't mind if this becomes an option though. - Matt ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: More conspicous header lines 2009-07-23 8:43 ` Bastien ` (4 preceding siblings ...) 2009-07-23 12:19 ` Matthew Lundin @ 2009-07-23 13:56 ` Nick Dokos 2009-07-23 14:04 ` Bastien 5 siblings, 1 reply; 23+ messages in thread From: Nick Dokos @ 2009-07-23 13:56 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Bastien; +Cc: emacs-orgmode, Paul Mead Bastien <bastienguerry@googlemail.com> wrote: > Paul Mead <paul.d.mead@gmail.com> writes: > > > Bastien <bastienguerry@googlemail.com> writes: > > > >> > >> Please people vote. It's a tiny change but since we all have different > >> preferences for such things, it's good to have a sense of what everyone > >> thinks... > > > > What are we voting for, to make this *possible* or *default*? > > Default. > IIUC, the suggestion is to change the headlines regexp in org-set-font-lock-defaults, but you are *not* suggesting that the face definitions be changed to have a background color - is that correct? If that's the case, I see little, if any, harm in the change (although, like Paul Mead, I don't think I'm going to use the feature: I find it obnoxiously loud.) The point is that the above is an opt-in system: the regexp enables the look, but nothing happens until the end-user customizes the face. If you *are* suggesting changing the faces as well as the regexp, it becomes an opt-out system, and I for one would object. Thanks, Nick ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: More conspicous header lines 2009-07-23 13:56 ` Nick Dokos @ 2009-07-23 14:04 ` Bastien 0 siblings, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: Bastien @ 2009-07-23 14:04 UTC (permalink / raw) To: nicholas.dokos; +Cc: emacs-orgmode, Paul Mead Nick Dokos <nicholas.dokos@hp.com> writes: > IIUC, the suggestion is to change the headlines regexp in > org-set-font-lock-defaults, but you are *not* suggesting that the face > definitions be changed to have a background color - is that correct? Correct. > If that's the case, I see little, if any, harm in the change > (although, like Paul Mead, I don't think I'm going to use the feature: > I find it obnoxiously loud.) I will create an option for this, the default will be to behave as Org currently behaves. -- Bastien ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
* Re: More conspicous header lines 2009-07-22 18:27 More conspicous header lines User 2009-07-22 18:35 ` Russell Adams 2009-07-22 22:11 ` Bastien @ 2009-07-23 16:54 ` Bastien 2 siblings, 0 replies; 23+ messages in thread From: Bastien @ 2009-07-23 16:54 UTC (permalink / raw) To: User, Lennart Borgman; +Cc: emacs-orgmode User <spamfilteraccount@gmail.com > writes: > Please consider adding this change to org mode: > > http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/OrgMode#toc11 So I have implemented this. There is now the option `org-fontify-whole-heading-line'. When t, headlines will be fontified till the end of the lines. This option defaults to nil. Thanks Lennart and User (?) for bringing this up! -- Bastien ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 23+ messages in thread
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