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* Need extra text in ODT export of headers
@ 2014-02-03 15:43 Dan Griswold
       [not found] ` <m2bnyokwrr.fsf@uio.no>
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From: Dan Griswold @ 2014-02-03 15:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Emacs-orgmode

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Hi all,

I have to do something particular in org-mode, and I'm stumped.

The manuscript I will need to submit to my publisher is to be very sparse
on formatting in MS-Word. So for headings I need to mark them <A> for first
level headings, <B> for second level, <C> for third level.

So, with an org file that looks somewhat like this:

* Here's a top Heading

** Here's a subheading

* Here's another top Heading

I would get in an ODT export:

<A> Here's a top Heading

<B> Here's a subheading

<A> Here's another top Heading



Do any of you have suggestions for how I could accomplish this, short of
manually supplying that text for every single heading (67) in the several
org files that comprise the manuscript?

Perhaps there's a way to do this using LO styles. But I can't figure that
out, either.

Thanks,

Dan Griswold
Rochester, NY

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• • * Re: Need extra text in ODT export of headers
           [not found] ` <m2bnyokwrr.fsf@uio.no>
    @ 2014-02-03 16:12   ` Dan Griswold
      2014-02-04  2:52     ` Jambunathan K
      0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
    From: Dan Griswold @ 2014-02-03 16:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
      To: Christian Moe, Emacs-orgmode
    
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    That might do the trick. The added text appears as expected in a file saved
    as text only. The only downside right now seems to be that I have to do the
    outline numbering for each file in the manuscript. But there are only 9 of
    them.
    
    I hope that I can soon ask an editor with the publishing company whether
    this is acceptable. But for now, it seems to work. So thank you!
    
    Dan
    
    
    
    On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Christian Moe <mail@christianmoe.com>wrote:
    
    >
    > Hi,
    >
    > Here's one way to do it in LibreOffice:
    >
    > Go to Tools > Outline Numbering
    >
    > For each heading level,
    >
    > under "Separator" > "After",
    >
    > add the markup they want ("<A>" for first level, etc.).
    >
    > This should work for your printed manuscript. However, you'd need to
    > test if it's still there when you've converted to MS Word (don't have it
    > at hand).
    >
    > Yours,
    > Christian
    >
    > Dan Griswold writes:
    >
    > > Hi all,
    > >
    > > I have to do something particular in org-mode, and I'm stumped.
    > >
    > > The manuscript I will need to submit to my publisher is to be very sparse
    > > on formatting in MS-Word. So for headings I need to mark them <A> for
    > first
    > > level headings, <B> for second level, <C> for third level.
    > >
    > > So, with an org file that looks somewhat like this:
    > >
    > > * Here's a top Heading
    > >
    > > ** Here's a subheading
    > >
    > > * Here's another top Heading
    > >
    > > I would get in an ODT export:
    > >
    > > <A> Here's a top Heading
    > >
    > > <B> Here's a subheading
    > >
    > > <A> Here's another top Heading
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > Do any of you have suggestions for how I could accomplish this, short of
    > > manually supplying that text for every single heading (67) in the several
    > > org files that comprise the manuscript?
    > >
    > > Perhaps there's a way to do this using LO styles. But I can't figure that
    > > out, either.
    > >
    > > Thanks,
    > >
    > > Dan Griswold
    > > Rochester, NY
    >
    >
    
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  • • * Re: Need extra text in ODT export of headers
        2014-02-03 16:12   ` Dan Griswold
      @ 2014-02-04  2:52     ` Jambunathan K
        2014-02-04  9:09       ` Christian Moe
        0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
      From: Jambunathan K @ 2014-02-04  2:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
        Cc: Emacs-orgmode, Christian Moe
      
      Dan Griswold <kc5gmr@gmail.com> writes:
      
      > The only downside right now seems to be that I have to do the outline
      > numbering for each file in the manuscript. But there are only 9 of
      > them.
      
      You just need to create a opendocument template file and have all the
      org file use it.
      
      See
      
         (info "(org) Applying custom styles")
      
      1. Export ONE document.
      2. Fix outline numbering
      3. Save the file as say custom-style.ott (Note: It is OTT and not ODT)
      4. Add a directive to ALL THE OTHER org file as below.
      
             M-x org-export-insert-default-template odt
      
         and modify the ODT_STYLES_FILE directive as below.
      
            #+ODT_STYLES_FILE: "~/a/b/custom-style.ott"
      
      5. Now if I export the org files with (4), you will get the outline
         numbering that you desire.
      
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    • • * Re: Need extra text in ODT export of headers
          2014-02-04  2:52     ` Jambunathan K
        @ 2014-02-04  9:09       ` Christian Moe
          2014-02-09  4:31         ` Jambunathan K
          0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
        From: Christian Moe @ 2014-02-04  9:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
          To: Jambunathan K; +Cc: Dan Griswold, Emacs-orgmode, Christian Moe
        
        
        Hi, Jambunathan,
        
        I was going to tell Dan the same thing, but for some reason, the below
        doesn't work for me with outline numbering. Can you confirm that it
        works for you?
        
        When I try, the paragraph styles from the template *do* get applied
        (tested by coloring some headings), but the custom outline numbering
        does not.
        
        To see if it ought to, I also tried to "load styles" from the OTT
        into an ODT document, but again, custom outline numbering did not follow
        along, so I'm not sure if it should be expected to work with Org ODT
        export either.
        
        Yours,
        Christian
        
        Jambunathan K writes:
        
        > The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
        > that has been posted to gmane.emacs.orgmode as well.
        >
        > Dan Griswold <kc5gmr@gmail.com> writes:
        >
        >> The only downside right now seems to be that I have to do the outline
        >> numbering for each file in the manuscript. But there are only 9 of
        >> them.
        >
        > You just need to create a opendocument template file and have all the
        > org file use it.
        >
        > See
        >
        >    (info "(org) Applying custom styles")
        >
        > 1. Export ONE document.
        > 2. Fix outline numbering
        > 3. Save the file as say custom-style.ott (Note: It is OTT and not ODT)
        > 4. Add a directive to ALL THE OTHER org file as below.
        >
        >        M-x org-export-insert-default-template odt
        >
        >    and modify the ODT_STYLES_FILE directive as below.
        >
        >       #+ODT_STYLES_FILE: "~/a/b/custom-style.ott"
        >
        > 5. Now if I export the org files with (4), you will get the outline
        >    numbering that you desire.
        
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      • • * Re: Need extra text in ODT export of headers
            2014-02-04  9:09       ` Christian Moe
          @ 2014-02-09  4:31         ` Jambunathan K
            0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
          From: Jambunathan K @ 2014-02-09  4:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
            Cc: Dan Griswold, Emacs-orgmode
          
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          This is what I tried and I have LibreOffice 4.1.3.2 on Debian.  See
          attachments for what I mean down below.
          
          1. Export test.org to test.odt
          2. Open test.odt, fix outline numbering and save as test.ott
          3. Copy test.org to test-styled.org and apply test.ott as ODT_STYLES_FILE.
          4. Export test-styled.org to test-styled.odt
          5. I see that test-styled.odt has the required outline numbering.
          
             Don't be fooled by the numbering in TOC.  The TOC is not in sync with
             what the style says.  Just update the TOC (i.e., Update All) and
             everything will be just fine.
          
          I am assuming that what I show here - with some variations thereof - is
          what the OP wants to achieve.
          
          
          [-- Attachment #2: test-styled.odt --]
          [-- Type: application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text, Size: 10428 bytes --]
          
          [-- Warning: decoded text below may be mangled, UTF-8 assumed --]
          [-- Attachment #3: test-styled.org --]
          [-- Type: text/x-org, Size: 576 bytes --]
          
          #+OPTIONS: ':nil *:t -:nil ::t <:t H:3 \n:nil ^:t arch:headline
          #+OPTIONS: author:t c:nil creator:comment d:(not "LOGBOOK") date:t
          #+OPTIONS: e:t email:nil f:t inline:t num:t p:nil pri:nil prop:nil
          #+OPTIONS: stat:t tags:t tasks:t tex:t timestamp:t toc:t todo:t |:t
          #+TITLE: test
          #+DATE: <2014-02-09 Sun>
          #+AUTHOR: Jambunathan K
          #+EMAIL: kjambunathan@gmail.com
          #+DESCRIPTION:
          #+KEYWORDS:
          #+LANGUAGE: en
          #+SELECT_TAGS: export
          #+EXCLUDE_TAGS: noexport
          #+CREATOR: Emacs 24.3.50.20 (Org mode 8.2.5h)
          
          #+OPTIONS: tex:dvipng
          #+ODT_STYLES_FILE: "test.ott"
          
          
          * one
          
          ** two
          
          *** three
          
          [-- Attachment #4: test.ott --]
          [-- Type: application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text-template, Size: 15505 bytes --]
          
          [-- Attachment #5: test.odt --]
          [-- Type: application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text, Size: 10694 bytes --]
          
          [-- Warning: decoded text below may be mangled, UTF-8 assumed --]
          [-- Attachment #6: test.org --]
          [-- Type: text/x-org, Size: 522 bytes --]
          
          #+OPTIONS: ':nil *:t -:nil ::t <:t H:3 \n:nil ^:t arch:headline
          #+OPTIONS: author:t c:nil creator:comment d:(not "LOGBOOK") date:t
          #+OPTIONS: e:t email:nil f:t inline:t num:t p:nil pri:nil prop:nil
          #+OPTIONS: stat:t tags:t tasks:t tex:t timestamp:t toc:t todo:t |:t
          #+TITLE: test
          #+DATE: <2014-02-09 Sun>
          #+AUTHOR: Jambunathan K
          #+EMAIL: kjambunathan@gmail.com
          #+DESCRIPTION:
          #+KEYWORDS:
          #+LANGUAGE: en
          #+SELECT_TAGS: export
          #+EXCLUDE_TAGS: noexport
          #+CREATOR: Emacs 24.3.50.20 (Org mode 8.2.5h)
          
          * one
          
          ** two
          
          *** three
          
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          Christian Moe <mail@christianmoe.com> writes:
          
          > Hi, Jambunathan,
          >
          > I was going to tell Dan the same thing, but for some reason, the below
          > doesn't work for me with outline numbering. Can you confirm that it
          > works for you?
          >
          > When I try, the paragraph styles from the template *do* get applied
          > (tested by coloring some headings), but the custom outline numbering
          > does not.
          >
          > To see if it ought to, I also tried to "load styles" from the OTT
          > into an ODT document, but again, custom outline numbering did not follow
          > along, so I'm not sure if it should be expected to work with Org ODT
          > export either.
          >
          > Yours,
          > Christian
          >
          > Jambunathan K writes:
          >
          >> The following message is a courtesy copy of an article
          >> that has been posted to gmane.emacs.orgmode as well.
          >>
          >> Dan Griswold <kc5gmr@gmail.com> writes:
          >>
          >>> The only downside right now seems to be that I have to do the outline
          >>> numbering for each file in the manuscript. But there are only 9 of
          >>> them.
          >>
          >> You just need to create a opendocument template file and have all the
          >> org file use it.
          >>
          >> See
          >>
          >>    (info "(org) Applying custom styles")
          >>
          >> 1. Export ONE document.
          >> 2. Fix outline numbering
          >> 3. Save the file as say custom-style.ott (Note: It is OTT and not ODT)
          >> 4. Add a directive to ALL THE OTHER org file as below.
          >>
          >>        M-x org-export-insert-default-template odt
          >>
          >>    and modify the ODT_STYLES_FILE directive as below.
          >>
          >>       #+ODT_STYLES_FILE: "~/a/b/custom-style.ott"
          >>
          >> 5. Now if I export the org files with (4), you will get the outline
          >>    numbering that you desire.
          
          
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