From: Jambunathan K <kjambunathan@gmail.com>
To: Scot Becker <scot.becker@gmail.com>
Cc: Achim Gratz <Stromeko@nexgo.de>, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: ELPA [WAS] Re: [PROPOSAL] Quick and easy installation instructions
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 20:25:14 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <81ocbhdijx.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimFO1+SxycrmaqNUCo1B1bTcR5ZF6DVn8Kw6rbf@mail.gmail.com> (Scot Becker's message of "Tue, 28 Sep 2010 11:52:34 +0100")
> Dan,
>
> I have no special expertise on this, but I'll hazzard an answer as a
> simple ELPA user:
>
>> Using ELPA does seem like an attractive route, especially if it
>> (package.el) is going to be in Emacs24.
>
> To me too, ELPA is a great idea. It probably needs some perfecting,
> but if it works for these purposes, we only help the perfecting by
> encouraging it's use.
>
>> - How much work would it take to put and maintain Org-mode on ELPA?
>
> I'll let someone else answer that, but I'd be suprised if it couldn't
> be automated.
>
>> - Would it make sense to have two different packages available via ELPA,
>
> To me, yes. I like using git for the development tree, but I expect
> that ELPA makes for a nice way for Windows users (and others who don't
> want to or can't use git) to get the latest version easily (and
> possibly even to downgrade if necessary). The latest release version
> is of course necessary as well, since using it is the main
> recommendation to new users.
>
>> - Will it be possible for the Org project to have control over the files
>
> An excellent and important question. We'd rather not be dependent on
> personal intervention from others to update, especially the '-latest'
> version. And even for the releases, we'd probably be glad to see them
> propagate to the repository pretty quickly. (The current non-gnu ELPA
> repo only updates every two weeks or so. This is fine for many
> projects, but probably not enough even for org-mode releases.)
>
>> - Will ELPA be able to get the info files installed suitably?
>
> In principle, yes. ELPA does concern itself with both the load-path
> and the info-path.
>
FWIW the info entry and elisp file for the package manager answers some
of the questions raised here.
Base URL: http://github.com/davidswelt/aquamacs-emacs/raw/aquamacs24
./lisp/emacs-lisp/package.el
./lisp/emacs-lisp/package-x.el
./doc/lispref/package.texi
I see that default archive is set to
http://elpa.gnu.org/packages/
Atleast from the browser I could see only a handful of files. No I don't
see Orgmode there. It wouldn't be there unless someone provided *-pkg.el
file.
ELPA that I have installed with my emacs-23.1.91 is from
http://tromey.com/elpa/.
As a user, I find the experience of using package manager extremely
pleasant. Apart from merge related changes & related renaming, I believe
the emacs24 version should be just the same.
Since package manager is a new kid on the block I don't see any reason
why it can't be taught new tricks.
ps: There are references to 'uploads' in package-x.el. So, there is
reason to believe that there exists support for updating archives
remotely.
Jambunathan K.
> Scot
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-09-28 14:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-09-26 13:33 [PROPOSAL] Quick and easy installation instructions Dan Davison
2010-09-26 13:44 ` Thomas S. Dye
2010-09-26 13:52 ` A. Ryan Reynolds
2010-09-26 14:21 ` Richard Riley
2010-09-26 14:52 ` Dan Davison
2010-09-26 15:01 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-09-26 15:02 ` Richard Riley
2010-09-26 21:00 ` Rémi Vanicat
2010-09-27 6:23 ` Richard Riley
2010-09-26 20:51 ` Adam
2010-09-26 14:51 ` John Hendy
2010-09-26 17:37 ` Achim Gratz
2010-09-26 18:22 ` Dan Davison
2010-09-26 19:27 ` Achim Gratz
2010-09-26 20:57 ` ELPA [WAS] " Dan Davison
2010-09-28 10:52 ` Scot Becker
2010-09-28 14:55 ` Jambunathan K [this message]
2010-09-28 17:48 ` ELPA Eric Schulte
2010-09-28 18:35 ` ELPA Sebastian Rose
2010-09-28 18:59 ` ELPA Achim Gratz
2010-09-28 19:09 ` ELPA Richard Riley
2010-09-28 20:43 ` ELPA Scot Becker
2010-09-27 6:26 ` [PROPOSAL] Quick and easy installation instructions Carsten Dominik
2010-09-27 9:00 ` Dan Davison
2010-09-27 9:55 ` Carsten Dominik
2010-09-27 10:50 ` Giovanni Ridolfi
2010-09-27 12:55 ` Sebastian Rose
2010-09-27 13:53 ` Dan Davison
2010-09-27 14:06 ` Sebastian Rose
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