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From: Gregor Zattler <telegraph@gmx.net>
To: emacs-orgmode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: terminal emulators
Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 21:33:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140211203320.GA6321@boo.workgroup> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87sirpqyzt.fsf@Rainer.invalid>

Hi Achim,
* Achim Gratz <Stromeko@nexgo.de> [11. Feb. 2014]:
> Gregor Zattler writes:
>>> You cannot enter C-: in some terminals because it would require
>>> simultaneous processing of shift and control (these terminals ignore
>>> shift while control is pressed).
>>
>> this is true for xterm, rxvt-unicode, gnome-terminal, konsole and
>> the linux console.
> 
> Terminal emulators and certainly all of those you've listed usually pass
> this on correctly unless they are explicitly configured (by the user or
> the application using them) not to (at least when in an UTF-8 locale).

Huh?  I added a new user account to my debian/testing system with
no further customization whatsoever and renamed xorg.conf and
/etc/default/keyboard.  Then I started X as this new user, opened
a xterm and a rxtv-unicode, started emacs -Q -nw, did C-h k
(describe key) and hit C-: which is Shift-Control-. on a german
qwertz keyboard.

It says

: runs the command self-insert-command, which is an interactive
built-in function in `C source code'.

I never used a terminal emulator which would let me use
Shift-Control key combos.  Actually I would be very interested in
working Shift-Ctrl key combos.

> Since Emacs tries to use the full terminal capabilities you must have
> configured something that prevents this from being enabled by Emacs if
> it doesn't work for you.  Note that some X kbd configurations take over
> Shift+Control (usually just for left or right)

ATM I can't test with different (left, right) control keys since
I'm at a MacBook, there sadly is only one control key.

> to emulate hyper or
> super, but that would cause Emacs to recognize these events instead, I'd
> think.


You are able to type C-: in an emacs running in a terminal emulator?


Ciao; Gregor

  reply	other threads:[~2014-02-11 20:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-07 10:32 [RFC] Proposal for rebindings in Org 8.3 Bastien
2014-02-07 11:34 ` Sebastien Vauban
2014-02-07 13:30   ` Bastien
2014-02-07 14:55 ` Michael Brand
2014-02-08 18:13   ` Bastien
2014-02-07 15:56 ` Nick Dokos
2014-02-07 16:44   ` Rasmus
2014-02-08 18:13     ` Bastien
2014-02-07 19:06   ` Samuel Wales
2014-02-08 18:13     ` Bastien
2014-02-08 20:40       ` Samuel Wales
2014-02-08 20:42         ` Samuel Wales
2014-02-08 22:34         ` Bastien
2014-02-08 22:58           ` Samuel Wales
2014-02-09  8:01             ` Bastien
2014-02-09 10:26               ` Achim Gratz
2014-02-09  9:21             ` Assumptions on user's environment (was: [RFC] Proposal for rebindings in Org 8.3) Karl Voit
2014-02-09  9:51               ` Assumptions on user's environment Bastien
2014-02-09 10:09                 ` Karl Voit
2014-02-09 12:29                   ` Rasmus
2014-02-09 17:43                     ` Karl Voit
2014-02-09 19:43               ` Assumptions on user's environment (was: [RFC] Proposal for rebindings in Org 8.3) Samuel Wales
2014-02-09 19:51                 ` Assumptions on user's environment Bastien
2014-02-09 20:13                   ` Samuel Wales
2014-02-09 20:27                   ` Achim Gratz
2014-02-09 21:31                     ` Karl Voit
2014-02-10  8:55                       ` Bastien
2014-02-10  8:55                     ` Bastien
2014-02-10 11:19                       ` Sebastien Vauban
2014-02-10 19:29                         ` Samuel Wales
2014-02-12 17:09                           ` Karl Voit
2014-02-08 18:13   ` [RFC] Proposal for rebindings in Org 8.3 Bastien
2014-02-10  0:20 ` Thomas S. Dye
2014-02-10  8:40   ` Bastien
2014-02-10 17:27     ` Achim Gratz
2014-02-10 23:22       ` terminal emulators (was: Re: Proposal for rebindings in Org 8.3) Gregor Zattler
2014-02-11 13:58         ` terminal emulators Brett Viren
2014-02-11 18:35         ` Achim Gratz
2014-02-11 20:33           ` Gregor Zattler [this message]
2014-02-12 20:18             ` Achim Gratz
2014-03-10 18:07 ` [RFC] Proposal for rebindings in Org 8.3 Greg Troxel

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