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From: Rasmus <rasmus@gmx.us>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Proposal for rebindings in Org 8.3
Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2014 17:44:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bnyian5b.fsf@gmx.us> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87eh3eex15.fsf@alphaville.bos.redhat.com

Nick Dokos <ndokos@gmail.com> writes:

> Bastien <bzg@gnu.org> writes:
>
>> The purpose is to be polite with minor modes and to not use
>> C-c [:punct:] keybindings, as recommended in the Elisp manual.
>>
>> This is related to the issues reported here:
>> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-orgmode/2014-01/msg00866.html
>> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/82010
>>
>> Here is a table to summarise the proposal:
>>
>> | Key   | Command                           | Proposal         | Status |
>> |-------+-----------------------------------+------------------+--------|
>> | C-c # | Checkboxes                        | C-c x            | Free   |
>> | C-c ~ | Cooperation                       | C-c C-~          | Free   |
>> | C-c , | Priorities                        | C-c C-,          | Free   |
>> | C-c ? | Editing and debugging formulas    | C-c C-?          | Free   |
>> | C-c ! | Creating timestamps               | C-c C-!          | Free   |
>> | C-c . | Creating timestamps               | C-c C-.          | Free   |
>> | C-c ` | Built-in table editor             | C-c C-`          | Free   |
>> |-------+-----------------------------------+------------------+--------|
>> | C-c ' | Editing and debugging formulas    | C-c " or C-c C-' | Free   |
>> | C-c ^ | Structure editing, plain lists... | C-c C-^          | Taken  |
>> | C-c @ | Structure editing                 | C-c <            | Taken  |
>>
>> The order is from the less problematic ones to the more problematic ones.
>>
>> A few comments on the last three:
>>
>> - " is not a punctuation character, I find C-c " instead of C-c ' good.
>>
>
> On a QWERTY keyboard or Dvorak keyboard, " requires Shifting, so you
> have to switch horses midstream (first Control, then SHift). Not sure
> about anybody else, but those are the most problematic key sequences for
> me. I would much prefer C-c C-': you just keep the Control key pressed
> for the duration.

I agree that it's better if we can avoid letters needing a 'secondary'
key.

Unfortunately, I think this wish is hard to meet when considering
several layouts.

For me the following keys need shift or Alt-Gr: ^, ", `, !, ?, and ~.

Rasmus

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  reply	other threads:[~2014-02-07 16:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-07 10:32 [RFC] Proposal for rebindings in Org 8.3 Bastien
2014-02-07 11:34 ` Sebastien Vauban
2014-02-07 13:30   ` Bastien
2014-02-07 14:55 ` Michael Brand
2014-02-08 18:13   ` Bastien
2014-02-07 15:56 ` Nick Dokos
2014-02-07 16:44   ` Rasmus [this message]
2014-02-08 18:13     ` Bastien
2014-02-07 19:06   ` Samuel Wales
2014-02-08 18:13     ` Bastien
2014-02-08 20:40       ` Samuel Wales
2014-02-08 20:42         ` Samuel Wales
2014-02-08 22:34         ` Bastien
2014-02-08 22:58           ` Samuel Wales
2014-02-09  8:01             ` Bastien
2014-02-09 10:26               ` Achim Gratz
2014-02-09  9:21             ` Assumptions on user's environment (was: [RFC] Proposal for rebindings in Org 8.3) Karl Voit
2014-02-09  9:51               ` Assumptions on user's environment Bastien
2014-02-09 10:09                 ` Karl Voit
2014-02-09 12:29                   ` Rasmus
2014-02-09 17:43                     ` Karl Voit
2014-02-09 19:43               ` Assumptions on user's environment (was: [RFC] Proposal for rebindings in Org 8.3) Samuel Wales
2014-02-09 19:51                 ` Assumptions on user's environment Bastien
2014-02-09 20:13                   ` Samuel Wales
2014-02-09 20:27                   ` Achim Gratz
2014-02-09 21:31                     ` Karl Voit
2014-02-10  8:55                       ` Bastien
2014-02-10  8:55                     ` Bastien
2014-02-10 11:19                       ` Sebastien Vauban
2014-02-10 19:29                         ` Samuel Wales
2014-02-12 17:09                           ` Karl Voit
2014-02-08 18:13   ` [RFC] Proposal for rebindings in Org 8.3 Bastien
2014-02-10  0:20 ` Thomas S. Dye
2014-02-10  8:40   ` Bastien
2014-02-10 17:27     ` Achim Gratz
2014-02-10 23:22       ` terminal emulators (was: Re: Proposal for rebindings in Org 8.3) Gregor Zattler
2014-02-11 13:58         ` terminal emulators Brett Viren
2014-02-11 18:35         ` Achim Gratz
2014-02-11 20:33           ` Gregor Zattler
2014-02-12 20:18             ` Achim Gratz
2014-03-10 18:07 ` [RFC] Proposal for rebindings in Org 8.3 Greg Troxel
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-02-09 20:01 Tim O'Callaghan
2014-02-09 22:48 ` Nick Dokos
2014-02-10  8:43   ` Bastien
2014-02-10  9:28     ` Sebastien Vauban
2014-02-10 10:21       ` Bastien
2014-02-10 11:18         ` Sebastien Vauban
2014-02-11 20:58           ` Bastien

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