From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Gregor Zattler Subject: Re: terminal emulators Date: Tue, 11 Feb 2014 21:33:20 +0100 Message-ID: <20140211203320.GA6321@boo.workgroup> References: <87eh3f9pss.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <87ha87bbsc.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <871tzadgk6.fsf@Rainer.invalid> <20140210232205.GA15300@boo.workgroup> <87sirpqyzt.fsf@Rainer.invalid> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52330) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WDK1q-00023W-CC for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 15:34:08 -0500 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WDK1k-0002NK-JE for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 15:34:02 -0500 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.21]:51847) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WDK1k-0002N5-91 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 15:33:56 -0500 Received: from boo.workgroup ([87.187.142.156]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx003) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Lm3bl-1VeGG20IHR-00ZehX for ; Tue, 11 Feb 2014 21:33:55 +0100 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87sirpqyzt.fsf@Rainer.invalid> List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode Hi Achim, * Achim Gratz [11. Feb. 2014]: > Gregor Zattler writes: >>> You cannot enter C-: in some terminals because it would require >>> simultaneous processing of shift and control (these terminals ignore >>> shift while control is pressed). >> >> this is true for xterm, rxvt-unicode, gnome-terminal, konsole and >> the linux console. > > Terminal emulators and certainly all of those you've listed usually pass > this on correctly unless they are explicitly configured (by the user or > the application using them) not to (at least when in an UTF-8 locale). Huh? I added a new user account to my debian/testing system with no further customization whatsoever and renamed xorg.conf and /etc/default/keyboard. Then I started X as this new user, opened a xterm and a rxtv-unicode, started emacs -Q -nw, did C-h k (describe key) and hit C-: which is Shift-Control-. on a german qwertz keyboard. It says : runs the command self-insert-command, which is an interactive built-in function in `C source code'. I never used a terminal emulator which would let me use Shift-Control key combos. Actually I would be very interested in working Shift-Ctrl key combos. > Since Emacs tries to use the full terminal capabilities you must have > configured something that prevents this from being enabled by Emacs if > it doesn't work for you. Note that some X kbd configurations take over > Shift+Control (usually just for left or right) ATM I can't test with different (left, right) control keys since I'm at a MacBook, there sadly is only one control key. > to emulate hyper or > super, but that would cause Emacs to recognize these events instead, I'd > think. You are able to type C-: in an emacs running in a terminal emulator? Ciao; Gregor