* Re: Mobile org
2009-09-02 15:44 Mobile org Marcelo de Moraes Serpa
@ 2009-09-02 16:06 ` Matt Lundin
2009-09-02 18:31 ` Delwood Richardson
2009-10-03 6:25 ` [AvataR]
2009-09-02 20:53 ` Bernt Hansen
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From: Matt Lundin @ 2009-09-02 16:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Marcelo de Moraes Serpa; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <celoserpa@gmail.com> writes:
> Hello list,
>
> org-mode really changed my life, and allowed me to fully implement GTD
> the way I wanted. However, I miss having access to it everytime, so,
> I'm looking for a mobile device that could run emacs and org, and that
> I could keep in sync with my laptop.
There have been many discussions of this topic in the past. I would
recommend searching the gmane archives for iPhone, Nokia N810, Android,
portable, etc.
http://news.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode
If I had money to burn[1] and needed a mobile device, I would wait for
the Nokia N900, which is both a smartphone and a hackable Linux pocket
computer. There are Emacs packages that run on its predecessor, the
N810.
Best,
Matt
Footnotes:
[1] This is a big if. ;)
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2009-09-02 16:06 ` Matt Lundin
@ 2009-09-02 18:31 ` Delwood Richardson
2009-09-07 18:51 ` Eric S Fraga, Eric S Fraga
2009-10-03 6:25 ` [AvataR]
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From: Delwood Richardson @ 2009-09-02 18:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
I am using org-mode on a N800 (or N810). It works pretty well in reverse-video
mode with emacs 22. Here is the link to the Emacs for maemo site:
http://danielsz.freeshell.org/code/mine/emacs-for-maemo/index.shtml
And one can easily sync writing with unison on the N800. The N900 looks great,
but until the price comes down the N800 and N810 are a great deal. They are
small enough to replace a Moleskine notebook and work with a folding bluetooth
keyboard like the iGo to give a truely protable org experience.
Delwood
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* Re: Re: Mobile org
2009-09-02 18:31 ` Delwood Richardson
@ 2009-09-07 18:51 ` Eric S Fraga, Eric S Fraga
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From: Eric S Fraga, Eric S Fraga @ 2009-09-07 18:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
At Wed, 2 Sep 2009 18:31:05 +0000 (UTC), Delwood Richardson wrote:
>
> I am using org-mode on a N800 (or N810).
I'm also using org-mode on an N810 (with emacs 22). Ideal! org-mode
is perfectly fast enough, especially after the optimisations done to
it earlier this year and having it run on a computer that fits in my
pocket is exactly what I needed for keeping on top of things.
There are a slew of machines supposedly (?) coming out in the near
future with 5" screens, many running Linux, which should support
org-mode very well indeed.
eric
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* Re: Re: Mobile org
2009-09-02 16:06 ` Matt Lundin
2009-09-02 18:31 ` Delwood Richardson
@ 2009-10-03 6:25 ` [AvataR]
2009-10-07 7:17 ` Eric S Fraga, Eric S Fraga
2009-12-10 21:11 ` Adam Spiers
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From: [AvataR] @ 2009-10-03 6:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Matt Lundin; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
I have emacs-23 on n810, tuned for rather quick start with dumps,
cleaning and other stuff :) Not
perfect, because of absent of normal virtual keyboard, and LOooOOoww
memory (emacs-server get about 6-7%), but usable. Also emacs requires some
tuning for using on RX-44 keyboard (M-x -> M-+, wmctrl, etc), and with
org. I sync my stations with mercurial. I think we must write simple
client for org-db for opensync, or something in that way - normally
emacs on portable devices works quite sloow. Or maybe we can do
clear emacs-org application? (%
Some screenshots:
http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/1055/gnus.png
http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/4656/menux.png
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/1610/emacsgeneral.png
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2009-10-03 6:25 ` [AvataR]
@ 2009-10-07 7:17 ` Eric S Fraga, Eric S Fraga
2009-12-10 21:11 ` Adam Spiers
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From: Eric S Fraga, Eric S Fraga @ 2009-10-07 7:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: [AvataR]; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
At Sat, 03 Oct 2009 09:25:24 +0300,
[AvataR] wrote:
>
> I have emacs-23 on n810, tuned for rather quick start with dumps,
> cleaning and other stuff :)
Where did you install emacs 23 from? I'm using my N810 specifically
for org-mode (my carry around diary and note taking device) but am
using emacs 22.
> Not
> perfect, because of absent of normal virtual keyboard, and LOooOOoww
> memory (emacs-server get about 6-7%), but usable. Also emacs requires some
> tuning for using on RX-44 keyboard (M-x -> M-+, wmctrl, etc), and with
> org. I sync my stations with mercurial.
I use git instead of mercurial but would like mercurial. Where did
you get this from for the N810?
> I think we must write simple
> client for org-db for opensync, or something in that way - normally
> emacs on portable devices works quite sloow. Or maybe we can do
> clear emacs-org application?
I'm not sure what you mean by this. Given the ability to easily sync
using hg/git, what do you need here?
eric
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* Re: Re: Mobile org
2009-10-03 6:25 ` [AvataR]
2009-10-07 7:17 ` Eric S Fraga, Eric S Fraga
@ 2009-12-10 21:11 ` Adam Spiers
2009-12-11 16:30 ` BKnoth
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From: Adam Spiers @ 2009-12-10 21:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
On Sat, Oct 03, 2009 at 09:25:24AM +0300, [AvataR] wrote:
> I have emacs-23 on n810, tuned for rather quick start with dumps,
> cleaning and other stuff :) Not
> perfect, because of absent of normal virtual keyboard, and LOooOOoww
> memory (emacs-server get about 6-7%), but usable. Also emacs requires some
> tuning for using on RX-44 keyboard (M-x -> M-+, wmctrl, etc), and with
> org. I sync my stations with mercurial. I think we must write simple
> client for org-db for opensync, or something in that way - normally
> emacs on portable devices works quite sloow. Or maybe we can do
> clear emacs-org application? (%
>
> Some screenshots:
>
> http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/1055/gnus.png
> http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/4656/menux.png
> http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/1610/emacsgeneral.png
Ooh, very nice! Would *love* to hear how you got emacs 23 on there,
and more details on the tuning and tweaks you did ...
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* Re: Mobile org
2009-09-02 15:44 Mobile org Marcelo de Moraes Serpa
2009-09-02 16:06 ` Matt Lundin
@ 2009-09-02 20:53 ` Bernt Hansen
2009-09-03 6:33 ` Ian Barton
2010-02-03 14:57 ` news
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From: Bernt Hansen @ 2009-09-02 20:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Marcelo de Moraes Serpa; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <celoserpa@gmail.com> writes:
> org-mode really changed my life, and allowed me to fully implement GTD
> the way I wanted. However, I miss having access to it everytime, so,
> I'm looking for a mobile device that could run emacs and org, and that
> I could keep in sync with my laptop.
>
> What do you think?
>
> Any suggestions appreciated,
I took the easy way out - I got myself a Eee PC 1000HE which has a
reported 9 hour battery runtime in Windows. I get 7+ hours in Linux and
it's a full PC with an 85% keyboard. It's great for my purposes and it
runs full emacs and org-mode.
-Bernt
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* Re: Mobile org
2009-09-02 15:44 Mobile org Marcelo de Moraes Serpa
2009-09-02 16:06 ` Matt Lundin
2009-09-02 20:53 ` Bernt Hansen
@ 2009-09-03 6:33 ` Ian Barton
[not found] ` <1e5bcefd0909030758u20a794b2o5326e9c924e0374b@mail.gmail.com>
2009-09-07 18:54 ` Eric S Fraga, Eric S Fraga
2010-02-03 14:57 ` news
3 siblings, 2 replies; 15+ messages in thread
From: Ian Barton @ 2009-09-03 6:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
Cc: emacs-orgmode
> org-mode really changed my life, and allowed me to fully implement GTD
> the way I wanted. However, I miss having access to it everytime, so, I'm
> looking for a mobile device that could run emacs and org, and that I
> could keep in sync with my laptop.
>
> What do you think?
>
> Any suggestions appreciated,
>
> Marcelo.
Hi Marcelo,
I am in the middle of writing a tutorial for worg on using org on mobile
devices. The short answer to your question is that there isn't really a
pocketable device that runs emacs at the moment. Nokia's Maemo platform
can run emacs, but I would call it pocketable.
So there are a few alternatives:
Use a device that can run ssh and ssh into one of your computer to run
emacs in a terminal. Nokia, Android and Windows Mobile all have devices
with ssh clients.
Use org-publish to make your files available as html or pdf. This gives
you a read only version of your org files.
Use one of the services like reqall that can accept input via voice,
Instant Meaaging, etc and publish it as an rss feed. You can then use
one of the scripts available to import this into your org files.
Ian.
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* Fwd: Mobile org
[not found] ` <1e5bcefd0909030758u20a794b2o5326e9c924e0374b@mail.gmail.com>
@ 2009-09-03 14:58 ` Marcelo de Moraes Serpa
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From: Marcelo de Moraes Serpa @ 2009-09-03 14:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <celoserpa@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Orgmode] Mobile org
To: lists@manor-farm.org
Thank you all for the replies!
I will look into Nokia N810, thanks for the tip. A netbook such as Eee PC
might be a pocket-enough experience, even though not the scenario I would
call ideal, but might work well :)
@Ian: Great tips! Looking forward to reading your tutorial on m-org, would
you mind warning us in the list when it's available?
Thanks,
Marcelo.
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 1:33 AM, Ian Barton <lists@manor-farm.org> wrote:
> org-mode really changed my life, and allowed me to fully implement GTD the
>> way I wanted. However, I miss having access to it everytime, so, I'm looking
>> for a mobile device that could run emacs and org, and that I could keep in
>> sync with my laptop.
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>> Any suggestions appreciated,
>>
>> Marcelo.
>>
>
> Hi Marcelo,
>
> I am in the middle of writing a tutorial for worg on using org on mobile
> devices. The short answer to your question is that there isn't really a
> pocketable device that runs emacs at the moment. Nokia's Maemo platform can
> run emacs, but I would call it pocketable.
>
> So there are a few alternatives:
>
> Use a device that can run ssh and ssh into one of your computer to run
> emacs in a terminal. Nokia, Android and Windows Mobile all have devices with
> ssh clients.
>
> Use org-publish to make your files available as html or pdf. This gives you
> a read only version of your org files.
>
> Use one of the services like reqall that can accept input via voice,
> Instant Meaaging, etc and publish it as an rss feed. You can then use one of
> the scripts available to import this into your org files.
>
> Ian.
>
>
>
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* Re: Mobile org
2009-09-03 6:33 ` Ian Barton
[not found] ` <1e5bcefd0909030758u20a794b2o5326e9c924e0374b@mail.gmail.com>
@ 2009-09-07 18:54 ` Eric S Fraga, Eric S Fraga
2009-09-08 2:26 ` Miguel Fernando Cabrera
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From: Eric S Fraga, Eric S Fraga @ 2009-09-07 18:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
At Thu, 03 Sep 2009 07:33:44 +0100,
Ian Barton wrote:
>
> I am in the middle of writing a tutorial for worg on using org on
> mobile devices. The short answer to your question is that there isn't
> really a pocketable device that runs emacs at the moment. Nokia's
> Maemo platform can run emacs, but I would call it pocketable.
I assumed you meant to say "not pocketable" and, if so, I guess it
depends on what kind of pockets! My N810 fits in the pocket of any of
my jackets or coats and does in fact fit in my trouser pockets but the
latter is not necessarily ideal...
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2009-09-07 18:54 ` Eric S Fraga, Eric S Fraga
@ 2009-09-08 2:26 ` Miguel Fernando Cabrera
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From: Miguel Fernando Cabrera @ 2009-09-08 2:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
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Few days ago the Nokia N900 (the successor of the N810) was released [1].
Although it is a little bit pricey, I am definitely looking forward to buy
one see Emacs + Org-Mode running on one of those things. Check it out [2].
This is the as "PocketEmacs" you can get :-). I wonder what other wonderful
ways of using Org can be developed if "Mobility" is added to the equation
:-).
[1]
http://www.nokia.com/press/press-releases/showpressrelease?newsid=1337594
[2] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP5R-5NX1BE
On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Eric S Fraga <ucecesf@ucl.ac.uk> wrote:
> At Thu, 03 Sep 2009 07:33:44 +0100,
> Ian Barton wrote:
> >
> > I am in the middle of writing a tutorial for worg on using org on
> > mobile devices. The short answer to your question is that there isn't
> > really a pocketable device that runs emacs at the moment. Nokia's
> > Maemo platform can run emacs, but I would call it pocketable.
>
> I assumed you meant to say "not pocketable" and, if so, I guess it
> depends on what kind of pockets! My N810 fits in the pocket of any of
> my jackets or coats and does in fact fit in my trouser pockets but the
> latter is not necessarily ideal...
>
>
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* Re: Mobile org
2009-09-02 15:44 Mobile org Marcelo de Moraes Serpa
` (2 preceding siblings ...)
2009-09-03 6:33 ` Ian Barton
@ 2010-02-03 14:57 ` news
2010-02-26 11:07 ` Daniel Martins
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From: news @ 2010-02-03 14:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-orgmode
Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <celoserpa@gmail.com> writes:
> Hello list,
>
> org-mode really changed my life, and allowed me to fully implement GTD the way
> I wanted. However, I miss having access to it everytime, so, I'm looking for a
> mobile device that could run emacs and org, and that I could keep in sync with
> my laptop.
>
> What do you think?
>
> Any suggestions appreciated,
>
> Marcelo.
Hi Marcelo,
check the CategoryPorts page on the emacswiki:
http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/CategoryPorts
Personally I use emacs on my android phone, which includes a
Debian installation, see here:
http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/EmacsOnAndroid
I use the android scripting environment to access android
programs from emacs. This allows me to make phone calls/send
text messages with BBDB in emacs, while I can still use the
useful gui stuff in android such as maps, web-browsing,
bar-code scanner etc.
I believe android is the way to go since it is open source
and hackable, while also having a large repertoire of cool
and useful apps.
The only drawback is that the initial setup is quite
complicated and time-consuming. You need to be fairly
technically minded.
--
aleblanc
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2010-02-03 14:57 ` news
@ 2010-02-26 11:07 ` Daniel Martins
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From: Daniel Martins @ 2010-02-26 11:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: news; +Cc: emacs-orgmode
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Maybe MobileOrg-Android be the simpler solution
http://wiki.github.com/matburt/mobileorg-android/
I did not tried yet
Daniel
2010/2/3 <news@aleblanc.cotse.net>
> Marcelo de Moraes Serpa <celoserpa@gmail.com> writes:
>
> > Hello list,
> >
> > org-mode really changed my life, and allowed me to fully implement GTD
> the way
> > I wanted. However, I miss having access to it everytime, so, I'm looking
> for a
> > mobile device that could run emacs and org, and that I could keep in sync
> with
> > my laptop.
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> > Any suggestions appreciated,
> >
> > Marcelo.
>
> Hi Marcelo,
> check the CategoryPorts page on the emacswiki:
> http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/CategoryPorts
>
> Personally I use emacs on my android phone, which includes a
> Debian installation, see here:
>
> http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/EmacsOnAndroid
>
> I use the android scripting environment to access android
> programs from emacs. This allows me to make phone calls/send
> text messages with BBDB in emacs, while I can still use the
> useful gui stuff in android such as maps, web-browsing,
> bar-code scanner etc.
>
> I believe android is the way to go since it is open source
> and hackable, while also having a large repertoire of cool
> and useful apps.
>
> The only drawback is that the initial setup is quite
> complicated and time-consuming. You need to be fairly
> technically minded.
>
> --
> aleblanc
>
>
>
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