From: John Kitchin <jkitchin@andrew.cmu.edu>
To: Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, "Bruce D'Arcus" <bdarcus@gmail.com>,
"András Simonyi" <andras.simonyi@gmail.com>,
"Nicolas Goaziou" <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr>
Subject: Re: wip-cite status question and feedback
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 15:57:41 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2zgxr8l6y.fsf@andrew.cmu.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8735vnhg0v.fsf@localhost>
I guess that the actions I use most often when "opening" a citation are,
opening the pdf, going to the webpage for it, and then opening the
bibtex entry (usually to fix capitalization or something). In org-ref
though, there are a whole bunch of other potential actions, like
searching for related citations, copying the key or formatted citation
to the clipboard, etc. I guess my point is there are a lot of things
that opening might mean to different people.
in org-ref, with any of those, the first step is finding where the key
sits in your bib-files, and then getting that entry. It is in a way a
primitive citation processor before the one that is used at export.
Ihor Radchenko <yantar92@gmail.com> writes:
> Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr> writes:
>
>> In my mind, "opening" leads to the bibliography reference, not to the
>> original document. IIUC, in this situation, the location does not matter
>> much, does it?
>>
>> In any case, Org has no clue about the "location" of the citation. It
>> can provide the suffix associated to the citation key, but it is up to
>> the citation processor to extract page information out of it. If this is
>> desirable, we need to provide the full citation object instead of the
>> key. I don't know if it is worth the trouble.
>
> From my experience using org-ref for citations, going to the
> bibliography reference is rarely useful. Most of time, I want to jump to
> the document I am citing (or even page in the document).
>
> I think that full citation object should be worth passing to the
> citation backend.
>
> Best,
> Ihor
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Thread overview: 139+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-04-07 15:15 wip-cite status question and feedback Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-07 17:51 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-04-07 18:27 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-07 18:31 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-07 21:13 ` Joost Kremers
2020-04-08 0:01 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-08 9:16 ` Joost Kremers
2020-04-08 9:32 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-04-08 12:19 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-08 13:39 ` John Kitchin
2020-04-08 16:12 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-09 7:38 ` Albert Krewinkel
2020-04-09 9:30 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-09 9:46 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-09 10:05 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-09 23:17 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-04-10 1:17 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-10 5:38 ` Albert Krewinkel
2020-04-11 11:41 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-13 12:05 ` Gustav Wikström
2020-04-13 12:33 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-05-24 12:12 ` Bastien
2020-05-24 13:17 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-05-29 21:59 ` András Simonyi
2020-05-29 22:24 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-05-29 22:58 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-06-03 14:40 ` Bastien
2020-06-03 14:53 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-12-14 21:24 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-03-24 13:22 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-03-24 18:27 ` M. ‘quintus’ Gülker
2021-04-11 23:15 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-12 13:19 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-04-12 18:53 ` András Simonyi
2021-04-16 17:05 ` András Simonyi
2021-04-16 17:23 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-18 13:11 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-04-18 13:35 ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-04-18 13:37 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-21 19:57 ` John Kitchin [this message]
2021-04-21 20:09 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-21 20:57 ` John Kitchin
2021-04-21 20:26 ` John Kitchin
2021-04-21 20:54 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-22 2:47 ` Timothy
2021-04-22 12:07 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-22 12:34 ` Timothy
2021-04-21 21:47 ` András Simonyi
2021-04-21 23:51 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-04-22 0:01 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-22 0:15 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-04-23 11:49 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-04-23 12:55 ` András Simonyi
2021-04-23 13:10 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-23 13:24 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-23 14:50 ` András Simonyi
2021-04-23 22:08 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-24 17:37 ` M. ‘quintus’ Gülker
2021-04-24 17:47 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-04-24 18:39 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-26 14:54 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-26 20:35 ` Denis Maier
2021-04-27 10:12 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-27 10:20 ` Timothy
2021-04-27 11:44 ` Denis Maier
2021-04-27 12:32 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-27 13:58 ` Denis Maier
2021-04-27 14:07 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-27 14:50 ` Denis Maier
2021-04-30 13:28 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-04-30 21:47 ` Denis Maier
2021-05-01 11:09 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-01 13:26 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-02 21:58 ` Denis Maier
2021-05-02 22:18 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-02 23:30 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-05 13:46 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-05 18:14 ` M. ‘quintus’ Gülker
2021-05-05 18:27 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-06 17:05 ` M. ‘quintus’ Gülker
2021-05-06 8:08 ` Denis Maier
2021-04-24 13:14 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-04-23 12:03 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-04-23 13:34 ` András Simonyi
2021-04-17 19:13 ` M. ‘quintus’ Gülker
2021-04-18 16:17 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-04-20 13:32 ` Matt Price
2021-04-21 17:07 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-04-21 17:53 ` Bruce D'Arcus
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-04-10 9:29 denis.maier.lists
2020-04-10 12:22 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-10 22:56 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-04-11 21:42 ` denis.maier.lists
2020-04-11 22:05 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-12 10:38 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-04-12 11:15 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-12 14:02 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-04-12 14:25 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-12 15:32 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-04-12 15:44 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-12 15:57 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-04-12 17:17 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-12 20:49 ` denis.maier.lists
2020-04-12 22:19 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-04-13 8:33 ` Stefan Nobis
2020-04-13 10:02 ` Denis Maier
2020-04-13 10:11 ` denis.maier.lists
2020-04-13 10:05 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-13 10:14 ` denis.maier.lists
2020-04-13 9:58 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-13 10:09 ` denis.maier.lists
2020-04-13 10:10 ` Joost Kremers
2020-04-13 10:46 ` Stefan Nobis
2020-04-15 5:54 ` Richard Lawrence
2020-04-15 10:07 ` Joost Kremers
2020-04-18 9:34 ` Richard Lawrence
2020-04-18 10:56 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-18 12:48 ` Richard Lawrence
2020-04-18 13:17 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-18 13:22 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-18 20:23 ` Denis Maier
2020-04-18 20:28 ` denis.maier.lists
2020-04-19 9:11 ` Richard Lawrence
2020-04-25 16:19 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-04-25 17:00 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-25 20:03 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-04-25 21:18 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-05-01 17:38 ` Richard Lawrence
2020-05-01 17:54 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-05-02 14:06 ` Nicolas Goaziou
[not found] ` <2fbf14cf-ae8c-4f7c-27f7-33771aa99492@mailbox.org>
2020-05-02 16:34 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-05-02 17:24 ` Denis Maier
2020-05-02 13:13 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-05-02 13:45 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-05-02 20:45 ` Richard Lawrence
2020-04-29 9:14 ` Denis Maier
2020-05-02 9:51 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-05-02 11:53 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-18 20:38 ` Joost Kremers
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