possible bug in org-export (LaTeX), again

possible bug in org-export (LaTeX), again

[Rainer Thiel]

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I now realise I sent my answeer only to Manish and not to the list, so
I am forwarding it now.  In substance, my test file does (and did)
have a blank line at the beginning and the problem still persists.  I
am afraid it is not exactly the same problem that was reportet some
time ago.  I am appending the .org-source-file and the exported
.tex-file again.


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Rainer Thiel <r.thiel@uni-jena.de>
Date: 2008/10/25
Subject: Re: [Orgmode] possible bug in org-export (LaTeX)
To: Manish <mailtomanish.sharma@gmail.com>


2008/10/25 Manish <mailtomanish.sharma@gmail.com>:
> A similar issue was reported a few weeks ago [1].  When I try the same
> workaround (make the first line of your document non-heading, a blank
> line or a #+ line or somthing), your example works fine here.

Well, as you can see in my example, the first line of my document is
actually a blank line, indeed.  I was aware of that easy workaround,
and it did work with that problem (in fact, I had found the workaround
myself before I'd read that posting).  I have no idea why it doesn't
work here in this case.

Many thanks for answering anyway

Rainer Thiel
--
Prof. Dr. Rainer Thiel
Institut für Altertumswissenschaften
07737 Jena, Germany (EU)
r.thiel@uni-jena.de



-- 
Prof. Dr. Rainer Thiel
Institut für Altertumswissenschaften
07737 Jena, Germany (EU)
r.thiel@uni-jena.de

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* First section: Short org-mode export demonstration file

This is a short text intended to explain what I think may be a bug in
org-mode's LaTeX exporting feature.  The substance of the problem is
that when exporting into a LaTeX-buffer the text.

** First subsection: introduction

This is an idle paragraph in the first section.  Is is /not/ meaningful in
any way.  It is just here to display some text.

Together with the first paragraph, this second paragraph should already
be enough to show the problem.

** Second subsection: problem description

  * When I am exporting the whole file, everything works as expected.
  * When I am marking the folded title-line of the first section in an
    active region as explained in 12.4 of the org manual (6.10), the
    latex-file is created as expected, except that the whole text to be
    set is repeated (with headlines including the asterisks) /before/
    the first LaTeX-section.

    I suppose this should be a bug.

* Second section

This second section does not have any sense at all.


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Re: possible bug in org-export (LaTeX), again

[Manish]

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  On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 6:34 PM, Rainer Thiel wrote:
  > I now realise I sent my answeer only to Manish and not to the
  > list, so I am forwarding it now. In substance, my test file does
  > (and did) have a blank line at the beginning and the problem still
  > persists. I am afraid it is not exactly the same problem that was
  > reportet some time ago. I am appending the .org-source-file and
  > the exported .tex-file again.

I opened the attached .org file, did "C-c e d" and completely normal
looking PDF was created.  I am attaching generated .tex file.  I
guess, it should be something specific to your specific setup.

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Manish

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Re: possible bug in org-export (LaTeX), again

[Rainer Thiel]

2008/10/26 Manish <mailtomanish.sharma@gmail.com>:
> I opened the attached .org file, did "C-c e d" and completely normal
> looking PDF was created.  I am attaching generated .tex file.  I
> guess, it should be something specific to your specific setup.

The problem doesn't occur in that case here either.  As I had
explained in my demonstration file, it never occurs when I am
exporting the whole file.

It does occur, though, at least here, when I mark the folded title
line of the first section in an active region and then start the
export function to export only the first section (= first outline
tree).

Could you try if you can reproduce the problem under this condition?

Many thanks indeed

Rainer
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Institut für Altertumswissenschaften
07737 Jena, Germany (EU)
r.thiel@uni-jena.de

Re: possible bug in org-export (LaTeX), again

[Sebastian Rose]

Hi Rainer,


I can reproduce thit here. Text is inserted into the LaTeX file
(`C-c C-e l') or buffer (`C-c C-e L')
twice.


Hi Rainer,


I can reproduce thit here. Text is inserted into the LaTeX file
(`C-c C-e l') or buffer (`C-c C-e L')
twice.


Regards,

   Sebastian


Rainer Thiel wrote:
> I now realise I sent my answeer only to Manish and not to the list, so
> I am forwarding it now.  In substance, my test file does (and did)
> have a blank line at the beginning and the problem still persists.  I
> am afraid it is not exactly the same problem that was reportet some
> time ago.  I am appending the .org-source-file and the exported
> .tex-file again.
> 
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Rainer Thiel <r.thiel@uni-jena.de>
> Date: 2008/10/25
> Subject: Re: [Orgmode] possible bug in org-export (LaTeX)
> To: Manish <mailtomanish.sharma@gmail.com>
> 
> 
> 2008/10/25 Manish <mailtomanish.sharma@gmail.com>:
>> A similar issue was reported a few weeks ago [1].  When I try the same
>> workaround (make the first line of your document non-heading, a blank
>> line or a #+ line or somthing), your example works fine here.
> 
> Well, as you can see in my example, the first line of my document is
> actually a blank line, indeed.  I was aware of that easy workaround,
> and it did work with that problem (in fact, I had found the workaround
> myself before I'd read that posting).  I have no idea why it doesn't
> work here in this case.
> 
> Many thanks for answering anyway
> 
> Rainer Thiel
> --
> Prof. Dr. Rainer Thiel
> Institut für Altertumswissenschaften
> 07737 Jena, Germany (EU)
> r.thiel@uni-jena.de
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: possible bug in org-export (LaTeX), again

[Rainer Thiel]

2008/10/26 Sebastian Rose <sebastian_rose@gmx.de>:
> I can reproduce thit here. Text is inserted into the LaTeX file
> (`C-c C-e l') or buffer (`C-c C-e L')
> twice.

Thank you for confirming it, Sebastian.  I am sure Carsten Dominik
will take care of it when he finds the time.

Thanks again

Rainer
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Institut für Altertumswissenschaften
07737 Jena, Germany (EU)
r.thiel@uni-jena.de

Re: possible bug in org-export (LaTeX), again

[Manish]

  On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 2:54 AM, Rainer Thiel wrote:
  > 2008/10/26 Sebastian Rose:
  >> I can reproduce thit here. Text is inserted into the LaTeX file
  >> (`C-c C-e l') or buffer (`C-c C-e L')
  >> twice.
  >
  > Thank you for confirming it, Sebastian. I am sure Carsten Dominik
  > will take care of it when he finds the time.

My apologies, Rainer.  Something kept preventing the point about
folded heading from getting into my thick skull.  :( Sorry for so much
noise.  I can also reproduce it.

-- 
Manish

Re: possible bug in org-export (LaTeX), again

[Rainer Thiel]

2008/10/27 Manish <mailtomanish.sharma@gmail.com>:
> My apologies, Rainer.  Something kept preventing the point about
> folded heading from getting into my thick skull. [...]  I can also reproduce it.

Thank you for confirming this.  I tested it again and found it isn't
the first section being folded either that is relevant.  When
everything is unfolded, but only the whole first section (with the two
subsections) is in the active region, the result is identical. :(

Best wishes

Rainer
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Institut für Altertumswissenschaften
07737 Jena, Germany (EU)
r.thiel@uni-jena.de

Re: possible bug in org-export (LaTeX), again

[Hsiu-Khuern Tang]

* On Sun 09:24PM +0000, 26 Oct 2008, Rainer Thiel (r.thiel@uni-jena.de) wrote:
> 2008/10/26 Sebastian Rose <sebastian_rose@gmx.de>:
> > I can reproduce thit here. Text is inserted into the LaTeX file
> > (`C-c C-e l') or buffer (`C-c C-e L')
> > twice.
> 
> Thank you for confirming it, Sebastian.

You may already have figured out a work-around, but here's I do:
    - use org-narrow-to-subtree (C-x n s)
    - put an blank first line in the narrowed view
    - export

Since there is no active region, this bug is not triggered.

> I am sure Carsten Dominik will take care of it when he finds the time.

Carsten made an appeal for someone else to take over the org-export-latex.el
module, since the original author Bastien doesn't have time to work on it.  I
appreciate the LaTeX functionality in Org-mode, and I sure wish I could
contribute to that module directly, but I am more knowledgeable in TeX/LaTeX
than elisp.

> Thanks again
> 
> Rainer
> --
> Prof. Dr. Rainer Thiel
> Institut für Altertumswissenschaften
> 07737 Jena, Germany (EU)
> r.thiel@uni-jena.de
> 
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Re: possible bug in org-export (LaTeX), again

[Carsten Dominik]

Hi Rainer,

I believe I have finally found this bug.  Please verify.

- Carsten

On Oct 26, 2008, at 2:04 PM, Rainer Thiel wrote:

> I now realise I sent my answeer only to Manish and not to the list, so
> I am forwarding it now.  In substance, my test file does (and did)
> have a blank line at the beginning and the problem still persists.  I
> am afraid it is not exactly the same problem that was reportet some
> time ago.  I am appending the .org-source-file and the exported
> .tex-file again.
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Rainer Thiel <r.thiel@uni-jena.de>
> Date: 2008/10/25
> Subject: Re: [Orgmode] possible bug in org-export (LaTeX)
> To: Manish <mailtomanish.sharma@gmail.com>
>
>
> 2008/10/25 Manish <mailtomanish.sharma@gmail.com>:
>> A similar issue was reported a few weeks ago [1].  When I try the =20
>> same
>> workaround (make the first line of your document non-heading, a blank
>> line or a #+ line or somthing), your example works fine here.
>
> Well, as you can see in my example, the first line of my document is
> actually a blank line, indeed.  I was aware of that easy workaround,
> and it did work with that problem (in fact, I had found the workaround
> myself before I'd read that posting).  I have no idea why it doesn't
> work here in this case.
>
> Many thanks for answering anyway
>
> Rainer Thiel
> --
> Prof. Dr. Rainer Thiel
> Institut f=FCr Altertumswissenschaften
> 07737 Jena, Germany (EU)
> r.thiel@uni-jena.de
>
>
>
> --=20
> Prof. Dr. Rainer Thiel
> Institut f=FCr Altertumswissenschaften
> 07737 Jena, Germany (EU)
> r.thiel@uni-jena.de
> <=20
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