* MobileOrg for Android starts to become really usable
@ 2010-05-28 9:05 Sven Bretfeld
2010-05-28 18:05 ` Enrico Indiogine
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0 siblings, 4 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Sven Bretfeld @ 2010-05-28 9:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-org
Hi to all, hi Matthew
I had a look at matburt's Github today and found the new 0.4alpha-build.
Now, MobOrg4And supports the capturing of notes. That's what I was
waiting for all the time. I can say that Note capturing works on my HTC
Magic, albeit I had little time so far to test it more than once or
twice.
I just wanted to say thank you very much!
Note taking is rudimentary at the moment. As far as I can see, you have
to type todo-keywords, tags and active timestamps manually. But that
doesn't matter too much at the moment. The current alternatives (RTM,
Toodledo) have similar inconveniences. However, in MobOrg4And we are in
our familiar org-syntax, so /everything/ can be done without complex awk/sed
operations after syncing.
@Matthew: Do you have some kind of roadmap published anywhere?
Greetings,
Sven
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread* Re: MobileOrg for Android starts to become really usable 2010-05-28 9:05 MobileOrg for Android starts to become really usable Sven Bretfeld @ 2010-05-28 18:05 ` Enrico Indiogine 2010-05-28 18:29 ` julien cubizolles 2010-05-28 18:43 ` Matthew Jones 2010-05-28 18:27 ` julien cubizolles ` (2 subsequent siblings) 3 siblings, 2 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Enrico Indiogine @ 2010-05-28 18:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Sven Bretfeld; +Cc: emacs-org Greetings! 2010/5/28 Sven Bretfeld <sven.bretfeld@gmx.ch>: > I had a look at matburt's Github today and found the new 0.4alpha-build. > Now, MobOrg4And supports the capturing of notes. That's what I was > waiting for all the time. I can say that Note capturing works on my HTC > Magic, albeit I had little time so far to test it more than once or > twice. I am a new Android user. I have a Sony-Ericsson Xperia X10 from Rogers. I do not really like the interface, but that is off-topic, but sure I would love to put a recent generic version of android on it. Anyway, I would like to install MobileOrg for Android. I know how to install apps from the Android Market using the phone directly. I do not know how to install apps using Github. I have looked for instructions but have not been able to find them. I use Linux Ubuntu 10.04 as computer OS. Thanks, Henri-Paul ---- Mathematics Education Texas A&M University Email: hindiogine@gmail.com Skype: hindiogine Website: http://www.coe.tamu.edu/~enrico "Rien ne va de soi. Rien n'est donné. Tous est construit." Gaston Bachelard, 1934 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: MobileOrg for Android starts to become really usable 2010-05-28 18:05 ` Enrico Indiogine @ 2010-05-28 18:29 ` julien cubizolles 2010-05-28 18:43 ` Matthew Jones 1 sibling, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: julien cubizolles @ 2010-05-28 18:29 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode Le vendredi 28 mai 2010 à 11:05 -0700, Enrico Indiogine a écrit : > Greetings! > > Anyway, I would like to install MobileOrg for Android. I know how to > install apps from the Android Market using the phone directly. I do > not know how to install apps using Github. I have looked for > instructions but have not been able to find them. You first need to install, from the market, apkInstaller. You then download a .apk file from http://wiki.github.com/matburt/mobileorg-android/ and copy it on the phone, and choose it from apkInstaller. Julien. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: MobileOrg for Android starts to become really usable 2010-05-28 18:05 ` Enrico Indiogine 2010-05-28 18:29 ` julien cubizolles @ 2010-05-28 18:43 ` Matthew Jones 1 sibling, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Matthew Jones @ 2010-05-28 18:43 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Enrico Indiogine; +Cc: emacs-org [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1856 bytes --] Go to: Settings -> Applications -> Application settings -> check "allow installation of non-Market applications" then browse to the github wiki page with your phone's browser, click on and download the apk, when it is through downloading just tap the file and it should start the install. 73, Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB) http://matburt.net On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Enrico Indiogine <hindiogine@gmail.com>wrote: > Greetings! > > 2010/5/28 Sven Bretfeld <sven.bretfeld@gmx.ch>: > > I had a look at matburt's Github today and found the new 0.4alpha-build. > > Now, MobOrg4And supports the capturing of notes. That's what I was > > waiting for all the time. I can say that Note capturing works on my HTC > > Magic, albeit I had little time so far to test it more than once or > > twice. > > I am a new Android user. I have a Sony-Ericsson Xperia X10 from > Rogers. I do not really like the interface, but that is off-topic, > but sure I would love to put a recent generic version of android on > it. > > Anyway, I would like to install MobileOrg for Android. I know how to > install apps from the Android Market using the phone directly. I do > not know how to install apps using Github. I have looked for > instructions but have not been able to find them. > > I use Linux Ubuntu 10.04 as computer OS. > > Thanks, > > Henri-Paul > > ---- > Mathematics Education > Texas A&M University > > Email: hindiogine@gmail.com > Skype: hindiogine > Website: http://www.coe.tamu.edu/~enrico > > "Rien ne va de soi. Rien n'est donné. Tous est construit." Gaston > Bachelard, 1934 > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 2676 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 201 bytes --] _______________________________________________ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: MobileOrg for Android starts to become really usable 2010-05-28 9:05 MobileOrg for Android starts to become really usable Sven Bretfeld 2010-05-28 18:05 ` Enrico Indiogine @ 2010-05-28 18:27 ` julien cubizolles 2010-05-30 16:21 ` Robert Goldman 2010-05-28 18:40 ` Matthew Jones 2010-05-31 5:46 ` Enrico Indiogine 3 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: julien cubizolles @ 2010-05-28 18:27 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode Le vendredi 28 mai 2010 à 11:05 +0200, Sven Bretfeld a écrit : > Hi to all, hi Matthew > > I can say that Note capturing works on my HTC > Magic, Working also on my LG GW620, however the SAVE Button gets hidden by the on-screen keyboard. I think I've seen other android apps keeping some buttons visible whether the keyboard is or isn't displayed. > I just wanted to say thank you very much! So do I, this project is progressing nicely ! Julien. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: MobileOrg for Android starts to become really usable 2010-05-28 18:27 ` julien cubizolles @ 2010-05-30 16:21 ` Robert Goldman 2010-05-30 23:33 ` Matthew Jones 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Robert Goldman @ 2010-05-30 16:21 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode julien cubizolles <j.cubizolles <at> free.fr> writes: > > Le vendredi 28 mai 2010 à 11:05 +0200, Sven Bretfeld a écrit : > > Hi to all, hi Matthew > > > > I can say that Note capturing works on my HTC > > Magic, > Working also on my LG GW620, however the SAVE Button gets hidden by the on-screen keyboard. > I think I've seen other android apps keeping some buttons visible > whether the keyboard is or isn't displayed. If I might comment --- one of the worst things about Android applications, IMO, is the way they are confusing about whether menus should be displayed in page, or invoked by the menu button. I'd urge you to avoid the on-page display in favor of the menu button. If you stick to that the user never needs to remember to scroll down to find the controls and there are just too many ways for the on-page display to be rendered either hard to reach or completely inaccessible. This problem is made worse (especially by contrast with the iPhone) because you don't have full knowledge of the screen dimensions. So I'd suggest that if a button is important (save, send, schedule, etc.) that you make it reachable by the center menu button. HtH, cheers, r ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: MobileOrg for Android starts to become really usable 2010-05-30 16:21 ` Robert Goldman @ 2010-05-30 23:33 ` Matthew Jones 2010-07-11 5:56 ` Dave Kritzberg 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Matthew Jones @ 2010-05-30 23:33 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Robert Goldman; +Cc: emacs-orgmode [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 3025 bytes --] With regard to the note capture display, I'm not sure how I feel about this... I like having the save button on the page because it reduces the number of clicks to save the note which can be huge if you are just trying to quickly jot something down. I do, however, need to fix it so that the Save button is always visible. The thing about this particular Activity display is that the text box is always fixed to some percentage of the display... so that the save button would never be off the page but rather the Text box would scroll if you had too much text in it. I may consider adding the save button to a menu once I add more options to the Capture screen (like adding a TODO flag, or Tags) but I think it's most intuitive if the save button is on the display.... mainly because you can't miss it, some things about Android happen in the background so that if you navigate away from the page it automatically saves the contents... but that's not how this capture page works (and I don't know that I would want it to automatically save if you hit the back button) this allows it to fit into the workflow and makes it obvious that you have to hit the save button to accomplish the save action. These are just my thoughts. As I bake out the Capture system I will certainly revisit it if the flow works better to have it under the 'Menu' action. 73, Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB) http://matburt.net On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Robert Goldman <rpgoldman@sift.info>wrote: > julien cubizolles <j.cubizolles <at> free.fr> writes: > > > > > Le vendredi 28 mai 2010 à 11:05 +0200, Sven Bretfeld a écrit : > > > Hi to all, hi Matthew > > > > > > I can say that Note capturing works on my HTC > > > Magic, > > Working also on my LG GW620, however the SAVE Button gets hidden by the > on-screen keyboard. > > I think I've seen other android apps keeping some buttons visible > > whether the keyboard is or isn't displayed. > > If I might comment --- one of the worst things about Android applications, > IMO, > is the way they are confusing about whether menus should be displayed in > page, > or invoked by the menu button. > > I'd urge you to avoid the on-page display in favor of the menu button. If > you > stick to that the user never needs to remember to scroll down to find the > controls and there are just too many ways for the on-page display to be > rendered > either hard to reach or completely inaccessible. This problem is made > worse > (especially by contrast with the iPhone) because you don't have full > knowledge > of the screen dimensions. > > So I'd suggest that if a button is important (save, send, schedule, etc.) > that > you make it reachable by the center menu button. > > HtH, > cheers, > r > > > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 3773 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 201 bytes --] _______________________________________________ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: MobileOrg for Android starts to become really usable 2010-05-30 23:33 ` Matthew Jones @ 2010-07-11 5:56 ` Dave Kritzberg [not found] ` <AANLkTimqX9-C14gYXeTMtD4TqZ8W9aVXf8Sibexam4a2@mail.gmail.com> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Dave Kritzberg @ 2010-07-11 5:56 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Matthew Jones; +Cc: emacs-orgmode, Robert Goldman [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 3570 bytes --] Hello Matthew and Orgmode Users, Is there any compatibility issue with mobile-org and the iPhone OS v. 4? Thanks, Dave Kritzberg On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Matthew Jones <bsdmatburt@gmail.com> wrote: > With regard to the note capture display, I'm not sure how I feel about > this... I like having the save button on the page because it reduces the > number of clicks to save the note which can be huge if you are just trying > to quickly jot something down. I do, however, need to fix it so that the > Save button is always visible. The thing about this particular Activity > display is that the text box is always fixed to some percentage of the > display... so that the save button would never be off the page but rather > the Text box would scroll if you had too much text in it. I may consider > adding the save button to a menu once I add more options to the Capture > screen (like adding a TODO flag, or Tags) but I think it's most intuitive if > the save button is on the display.... mainly because you can't miss it, some > things about Android happen in the background so that if you navigate away > from the page it automatically saves the contents... but that's not how this > capture page works (and I don't know that I would want it to automatically > save if you hit the back button) this allows it to fit into the workflow and > makes it obvious that you have to hit the save button to accomplish the save > action. These are just my thoughts. As I bake out the Capture system I > will certainly revisit it if the flow works better to have it under the > 'Menu' action. > > 73, > Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB) > http://matburt.net > > > On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Robert Goldman <rpgoldman@sift.info>wrote: > >> julien cubizolles <j.cubizolles <at> free.fr> writes: >> >> > >> > Le vendredi 28 mai 2010 à 11:05 +0200, Sven Bretfeld a écrit : >> > > Hi to all, hi Matthew >> > > >> > > I can say that Note capturing works on my HTC >> > > Magic, >> > Working also on my LG GW620, however the SAVE Button gets hidden by the >> on-screen keyboard. >> > I think I've seen other android apps keeping some buttons visible >> > whether the keyboard is or isn't displayed. >> >> If I might comment --- one of the worst things about Android applications, >> IMO, >> is the way they are confusing about whether menus should be displayed in >> page, >> or invoked by the menu button. >> >> I'd urge you to avoid the on-page display in favor of the menu button. If >> you >> stick to that the user never needs to remember to scroll down to find the >> controls and there are just too many ways for the on-page display to be >> rendered >> either hard to reach or completely inaccessible. This problem is made >> worse >> (especially by contrast with the iPhone) because you don't have full >> knowledge >> of the screen dimensions. >> >> So I'd suggest that if a button is important (save, send, schedule, etc.) >> that >> you make it reachable by the center menu button. >> >> HtH, >> cheers, >> r >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Emacs-orgmode mailing list >> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. >> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 4700 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 201 bytes --] _______________________________________________ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
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* Re: Re: MobileOrg for Android starts to become really usable [not found] ` <AANLkTimqX9-C14gYXeTMtD4TqZ8W9aVXf8Sibexam4a2@mail.gmail.com> @ 2010-07-14 22:15 ` Dave Kritzberg 0 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Dave Kritzberg @ 2010-07-14 22:15 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Richard Moreland; +Cc: emacs-orgmode [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 4755 bytes --] Thanks Richard! I've been holding off on the upgrade -- mobileorg is an important app ;) Thanks, Dave On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 7:26 AM, Richard Moreland <rlm@ncogni.to> wrote: > Hi Dave, > > I've been using the current version of MobileOrg on iOS 4.0 since an > early beta and haven't had any trouble. In addition, I've been > testing a new version that builds against the 4.0 SDK and thus > benefits from some of the new features like instant state save and > restore/multitasking. > > -Richard > > On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 1:56 AM, Dave Kritzberg > <dave.kritzberg@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hello Matthew and Orgmode Users, > > > > Is there any compatibility issue with mobile-org and the iPhone OS v. 4? > > > > Thanks, > > Dave Kritzberg > > > > > > On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Matthew Jones <bsdmatburt@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > >> With regard to the note capture display, I'm not sure how I feel about > >> this... I like having the save button on the page because it reduces the > >> number of clicks to save the note which can be huge if you are just > trying > >> to quickly jot something down. I do, however, need to fix it so that > the > >> Save button is always visible. The thing about this particular > Activity > >> display is that the text box is always fixed to some percentage of the > >> display... so that the save button would never be off the page but > rather > >> the Text box would scroll if you had too much text in it. I may > consider > >> adding the save button to a menu once I add more options to the Capture > >> screen (like adding a TODO flag, or Tags) but I think it's most > intuitive if > >> the save button is on the display.... mainly because you can't miss it, > some > >> things about Android happen in the background so that if you navigate > away > >> from the page it automatically saves the contents... but that's not how > this > >> capture page works (and I don't know that I would want it to > automatically > >> save if you hit the back button) this allows it to fit into the workflow > and > >> makes it obvious that you have to hit the save button to accomplish the > save > >> action. These are just my thoughts. As I bake out the Capture > system I > >> will certainly revisit it if the flow works better to have it under the > >> 'Menu' action. > >> 73, > >> Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB) > >> http://matburt.net > >> > >> > >> On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Robert Goldman <rpgoldman@sift.info> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> julien cubizolles <j.cubizolles <at> free.fr> writes: > >>> > >>> > > >>> > Le vendredi 28 mai 2010 à 11:05 +0200, Sven Bretfeld a écrit : > >>> > > Hi to all, hi Matthew > >>> > > > >>> > > I can say that Note capturing works on my HTC > >>> > > Magic, > >>> > Working also on my LG GW620, however the SAVE Button gets hidden by > the > >>> on-screen keyboard. > >>> > I think I've seen other android apps keeping some buttons visible > >>> > whether the keyboard is or isn't displayed. > >>> > >>> If I might comment --- one of the worst things about Android > >>> applications, IMO, > >>> is the way they are confusing about whether menus should be displayed > in > >>> page, > >>> or invoked by the menu button. > >>> > >>> I'd urge you to avoid the on-page display in favor of the menu button. > >>> If you > >>> stick to that the user never needs to remember to scroll down to find > the > >>> controls and there are just too many ways for the on-page display to be > >>> rendered > >>> either hard to reach or completely inaccessible. This problem is made > >>> worse > >>> (especially by contrast with the iPhone) because you don't have full > >>> knowledge > >>> of the screen dimensions. > >>> > >>> So I'd suggest that if a button is important (save, send, schedule, > etc.) > >>> that > >>> you make it reachable by the center menu button. > >>> > >>> HtH, > >>> cheers, > >>> r > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list > >>> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > >>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > >>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Emacs-orgmode mailing list > >> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > >> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > >> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > > > > > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 6694 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 201 bytes --] _______________________________________________ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. 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* Re: MobileOrg for Android starts to become really usable 2010-05-28 9:05 MobileOrg for Android starts to become really usable Sven Bretfeld 2010-05-28 18:05 ` Enrico Indiogine 2010-05-28 18:27 ` julien cubizolles @ 2010-05-28 18:40 ` Matthew Jones 2010-06-07 7:02 ` Detlef Steuer 2010-05-31 5:46 ` Enrico Indiogine 3 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Matthew Jones @ 2010-05-28 18:40 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Sven Bretfeld; +Cc: emacs-org [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2741 bytes --] Sven, thanks for the wonderful feedback. MobileOrg Android does attach a timestamp to the note (similar to what the iphone version does, just below the headline) but anything else you want as part of the heading you do have to type manually. I haven't yet published a roadmap because I've been on this frenetic pace to try to get close to feature parity with the iPhone version. I'm currently working on giving you the ability to change TODO states... this is a bit of a challenge because of how I store each of the org files. Richard's iPhone version actually reads the contents of the file into a database (I think? Or at least... some other data structure) which lends itself well to the org-mobile-push model where an updated heading just gets pushed into the mobileorg.org file. When I wrote my implementation I had not fully grasped that concept yet so I just store the file and parse it on-demand as you drill down into your file's contents. In order to support editing files and changing TODO states, I need to switch to Richard's model of storing the components that make up the file instead of trying to parse it on-demand. Once I have this finished I plan to release the Beta, and at the same time push the application into the Android Market (still free and open source, mind you) as well as release comprehensive documentation. I think (hope) that I can put the information on Richard's site dedicated to his version of MobileOrg and have his documentation be valid and easily understood for both version. 73, Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB) http://matburt.net On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 5:05 AM, Sven Bretfeld <sven.bretfeld@gmx.ch> wrote: > Hi to all, hi Matthew > > I had a look at matburt's Github today and found the new 0.4alpha-build. > Now, MobOrg4And supports the capturing of notes. That's what I was > waiting for all the time. I can say that Note capturing works on my HTC > Magic, albeit I had little time so far to test it more than once or > twice. > > I just wanted to say thank you very much! > > Note taking is rudimentary at the moment. As far as I can see, you have > to type todo-keywords, tags and active timestamps manually. But that > doesn't matter too much at the moment. The current alternatives (RTM, > Toodledo) have similar inconveniences. However, in MobOrg4And we are in > our familiar org-syntax, so /everything/ can be done without complex > awk/sed > operations after syncing. > > @Matthew: Do you have some kind of roadmap published anywhere? > > Greetings, > > Sven > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 3448 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 201 bytes --] _______________________________________________ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: MobileOrg for Android starts to become really usable 2010-05-28 18:40 ` Matthew Jones @ 2010-06-07 7:02 ` Detlef Steuer [not found] ` <AANLkTikYVkk-tExzTXoaFdmbKf8LrLZuqgtZo6chgvDC@mail.gmail.com> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Detlef Steuer @ 2010-06-07 7:02 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode Hi! Do you plan to add dropbox support into mobileorg-android? That would be just great! Thank you anyway for your efforts, even if dropbox gets dropped! Detlef On Fri, 28 May 2010 14:40:05 -0400 Matthew Jones <bsdmatburt@gmail.com> wrote: > Sven, thanks for the wonderful feedback. MobileOrg Android does attach a > timestamp to the note (similar to what the iphone version does, just below > the headline) but anything else you want as part of the heading you do have > to type manually. > > I haven't yet published a roadmap because I've been on this frenetic pace to > try to get close to feature parity with the iPhone version. I'm currently > working on giving you the ability to change TODO states... this is a bit of > a challenge because of how I store each of the org files. Richard's iPhone > version actually reads the contents of the file into a database (I think? > Or at least... some other data structure) which lends itself well to the > org-mobile-push model where an updated heading just gets pushed into the > mobileorg.org file. When I wrote my implementation I had not fully > grasped that concept yet so I just store the file and parse it on-demand as > you drill down into your file's contents. In order to support editing > files and changing TODO states, I need to switch to Richard's model of > storing the components that make up the file instead of trying to parse it > on-demand. > > Once I have this finished I plan to release the Beta, and at the same time > push the application into the Android Market (still free and open source, > mind you) as well as release comprehensive documentation. I think (hope) > that I can put the information on Richard's site dedicated to his version of > MobileOrg and have his documentation be valid and easily understood for both > version. > > 73, > Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB) > http://matburt.net > > > On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 5:05 AM, Sven Bretfeld <sven.bretfeld@gmx.ch> wrote: > > > Hi to all, hi Matthew > > > > I had a look at matburt's Github today and found the new 0.4alpha-build. > > Now, MobOrg4And supports the capturing of notes. That's what I was > > waiting for all the time. I can say that Note capturing works on my HTC > > Magic, albeit I had little time so far to test it more than once or > > twice. > > > > I just wanted to say thank you very much! > > > > Note taking is rudimentary at the moment. As far as I can see, you have > > to type todo-keywords, tags and active timestamps manually. But that > > doesn't matter too much at the moment. The current alternatives (RTM, > > Toodledo) have similar inconveniences. However, in MobOrg4And we are in > > our familiar org-syntax, so /everything/ can be done without complex > > awk/sed > > operations after syncing. > > > > @Matthew: Do you have some kind of roadmap published anywhere? > > > > Greetings, > > > > Sven > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
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* Re: MobileOrg for Android starts to become really usable [not found] ` <AANLkTikYVkk-tExzTXoaFdmbKf8LrLZuqgtZo6chgvDC@mail.gmail.com> @ 2010-06-07 14:43 ` Matthew Jones 2010-06-07 15:30 ` Henri-Paul Indiogine 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Matthew Jones @ 2010-06-07 14:43 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 3724 bytes --] I do plan on adding DropBox support but would like to get some other features working first. 73, Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB) http://matburt.net On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 3:02 AM, Detlef Steuer <detlef.steuer@gmx.de> wrote: > Hi! > > Do you plan to add dropbox support into mobileorg-android? > That would be just great! > > Thank you anyway for your efforts, even if dropbox gets dropped! > > Detlef > > On Fri, 28 May 2010 14:40:05 -0400 > Matthew Jones <bsdmatburt@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Sven, thanks for the wonderful feedback. MobileOrg Android does attach a > > timestamp to the note (similar to what the iphone version does, just > below > > the headline) but anything else you want as part of the heading you do > have > > to type manually. > > > > I haven't yet published a roadmap because I've been on this frenetic pace > to > > try to get close to feature parity with the iPhone version. I'm > currently > > working on giving you the ability to change TODO states... this is a bit > of > > a challenge because of how I store each of the org files. Richard's > iPhone > > version actually reads the contents of the file into a database (I think? > > Or at least... some other data structure) which lends itself well to the > > org-mobile-push model where an updated heading just gets pushed into the > > mobileorg.org file. When I wrote my implementation I had not fully > > grasped that concept yet so I just store the file and parse it on-demand > as > > you drill down into your file's contents. In order to support editing > > files and changing TODO states, I need to switch to Richard's model of > > storing the components that make up the file instead of trying to parse > it > > on-demand. > > > > Once I have this finished I plan to release the Beta, and at the same > time > > push the application into the Android Market (still free and open source, > > mind you) as well as release comprehensive documentation. I think > (hope) > > that I can put the information on Richard's site dedicated to his version > of > > MobileOrg and have his documentation be valid and easily understood for > both > > version. > > > > 73, > > Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB) > > http://matburt.net > > > > > > On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 5:05 AM, Sven Bretfeld <sven.bretfeld@gmx.ch> > wrote: > > > > > Hi to all, hi Matthew > > > > > > I had a look at matburt's Github today and found the new > 0.4alpha-build. > > > Now, MobOrg4And supports the capturing of notes. That's what I was > > > waiting for all the time. I can say that Note capturing works on my HTC > > > Magic, albeit I had little time so far to test it more than once or > > > twice. > > > > > > I just wanted to say thank you very much! > > > > > > Note taking is rudimentary at the moment. As far as I can see, you have > > > to type todo-keywords, tags and active timestamps manually. But that > > > doesn't matter too much at the moment. The current alternatives (RTM, > > > Toodledo) have similar inconveniences. However, in MobOrg4And we are in > > > our familiar org-syntax, so /everything/ can be done without complex > > > awk/sed > > > operations after syncing. > > > > > > @Matthew: Do you have some kind of roadmap published anywhere? > > > > > > Greetings, > > > > > > Sven > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > > > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > > > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > > > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 5301 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 201 bytes --] _______________________________________________ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: Re: MobileOrg for Android starts to become really usable 2010-06-07 14:43 ` Matthew Jones @ 2010-06-07 15:30 ` Henri-Paul Indiogine 0 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Henri-Paul Indiogine @ 2010-06-07 15:30 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-orgmode Matthew Jones <bsdmatburt@gmail.com> writes: > I do plan on adding DropBox support but would like to get some other > features working first. Thanks Matthew. I recently started using DropBox on my desktop, laptop and Xperia phone. All my main org files are now in my DropBox. It is a fantastic application. It would be wonderful to have MobileOrg work with DropBox. Best, Henri-Paul Indiogine Email: hindiogine@gmail.com Skype: hindiogine Website: http://www.coe.tamu.edu/~enrico ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: MobileOrg for Android starts to become really usable 2010-05-28 9:05 MobileOrg for Android starts to become really usable Sven Bretfeld ` (2 preceding siblings ...) 2010-05-28 18:40 ` Matthew Jones @ 2010-05-31 5:46 ` Enrico Indiogine 2010-05-31 7:05 ` Sven Bretfeld 3 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Enrico Indiogine @ 2010-05-31 5:46 UTC (permalink / raw) To: emacs-org Dear org users: Thanks to the help from you all I managed to install the latest development version of org-mobile-android on my Xperia X10. I set up my .emacs for stage push-pull and have a mydisk.se account with an org directory. M-x push will fail with an ssh timeout. I think it has to do with the fact that Emacs has no way of knowing the mydisk.se password. This in in my .emacs: (setq org-mobile-files (quote ("~/org/agenda.org"))) (setq org-mobile-directory "~/stage/") (add-hook 'org-mobile-post-push-hook (lambda () (shell-command "scp -r ~/stage/* hindiogine@mydisk.se:org/"))) (add-hook ' org-mobile-pre-pull-hook (lambda () (shell-command "scp hindiogine@mydisk.se:org/mobile.org ~/stage "))) (add-hook 'org-mobile-post-pull-hook (lambda () (shell-command "scp ~/stage/mobileorg.org hindiogine@mydisk.se:org]/"))) Is this code block correct and where do I specify my mydisk.se password? Thanks, Henri-Paul Indiogine Curriculum & Instruction Texas A&M University Email: hindiogine@gmail.com Skype: hindiogine Website: http://www.coe.tamu.edu/~enrico "Rien ne va de soi. Rien n'est donné. Tous est construit." Gaston Bachelard, 1934 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: MobileOrg for Android starts to become really usable 2010-05-31 5:46 ` Enrico Indiogine @ 2010-05-31 7:05 ` Sven Bretfeld 2010-06-02 17:22 ` Daniel Martins 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Sven Bretfeld @ 2010-05-31 7:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Enrico Indiogine; +Cc: emacs-org Hi Enrico Enrico Indiogine <hindiogine@gmail.com> writes: > Thanks to the help from you all I managed to install the latest > development version of org-mobile-android on my Xperia X10. I set up > my .emacs for stage push-pull and have a mydisk.se account with an org > directory. > > M-x push will fail with an ssh timeout. I think it has to do with the > fact that Emacs has no way of knowing the mydisk.se password. Try another approach. You are under Ubuntu, aren't you? I'm also under Ubuntu and I use mydisk.se. So this should also work for you: 1. sudo apt-get install davfs2 2. sudo adduser enrico davfs (I don't remember if this is really the groupname, maybe it's davfs2) 3. edit the file /etc/fstab -> add a line at the end: https://mydisk.se/yourusername /home/enrico/webdav davfs user,noauto 0 0 4. edit the file /etc/davfs2/secrets, add the following line: /home/enrico/webdav yourmydiskusername yourmydiskpasswd 5. mkdir ~/webdav 6. sudo dpkg-reconfigure davfs2 --> set the SUID Bit (i.e. just say "yes") 7. mount ~/webdav Now, your folders of mydisk.se should appear under ~/webdav. Then tell Emacs (org-mobile) to use this folder instead of scp. I just used customize to set the org-mobile-directory. > This in in my .emacs: > > (setq org-mobile-files (quote ("~/org/agenda.org"))) > (setq org-mobile-directory "~/stage/") Change this to "~/webdav" or use "stage" in the procedure above. > (add-hook 'org-mobile-post-push-hook > (lambda () (shell-command "scp -r ~/stage/* hindiogine@mydisk.se:org/"))) > (add-hook ' org-mobile-pre-pull-hook > (lambda () (shell-command "scp hindiogine@mydisk.se:org/mobile.org > ~/stage "))) > (add-hook 'org-mobile-post-pull-hook > (lambda () (shell-command "scp ~/stage/mobileorg.org > hindiogine@mydisk.se:org]/"))) I think with the webdav-approach you have to delete these hooks. Comment them out and restart Emacs. Good luck Sven ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: MobileOrg for Android starts to become really usable 2010-05-31 7:05 ` Sven Bretfeld @ 2010-06-02 17:22 ` Daniel Martins 2010-06-02 19:35 ` Daniel Martins 0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread From: Daniel Martins @ 2010-06-02 17:22 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Sven Bretfeld; +Cc: emacs-org [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2844 bytes --] I am having a problem with syncing. I created a webdav on my lab server. I access it from the Android navigator and I made a test with MobileOrg for Iphone with a friend of mine. Both cases worked perfect However when I use sync nothing happens. The screen remains completely black. I can use capture (I used both version 0.4 and developments with quite the same results) but I cannot sync again My webadav is something http://IPADDRESS/webdav/index.org where IPADDRESS is the IP address of the server 150.***.***.*** Daniel 2010/5/31 Sven Bretfeld <sven.bretfeld@gmx.ch> > Hi Enrico > > Enrico Indiogine <hindiogine@gmail.com> writes: > > > Thanks to the help from you all I managed to install the latest > > development version of org-mobile-android on my Xperia X10. I set up > > my .emacs for stage push-pull and have a mydisk.se account with an org > > directory. > > > > M-x push will fail with an ssh timeout. I think it has to do with the > > fact that Emacs has no way of knowing the mydisk.se password. > > Try another approach. You are under Ubuntu, aren't you? I'm also under > Ubuntu and I use mydisk.se. So this should also work for you: > > 1. sudo apt-get install davfs2 > > 2. sudo adduser enrico davfs (I don't remember if this is really the > groupname, maybe it's davfs2) > > 3. edit the file /etc/fstab -> add a line at the end: > > https://mydisk.se/yourusername /home/enrico/webdav davfs > user,noauto 0 0 > > 4. edit the file /etc/davfs2/secrets, add the following line: > > /home/enrico/webdav yourmydiskusername yourmydiskpasswd > > 5. mkdir ~/webdav > > 6. sudo dpkg-reconfigure davfs2 --> set the SUID Bit (i.e. just say "yes") > > 7. mount ~/webdav > > Now, your folders of mydisk.se should appear under ~/webdav. Then tell > Emacs (org-mobile) to use this folder instead of scp. I just used > customize to set the org-mobile-directory. > > > This in in my .emacs: > > > > (setq org-mobile-files (quote ("~/org/agenda.org"))) > > (setq org-mobile-directory "~/stage/") > > Change this to "~/webdav" or use "stage" in the procedure above. > > > (add-hook 'org-mobile-post-push-hook > > (lambda () (shell-command "scp -r ~/stage/* hindiogine@mydisk.se: > org/"))) > > (add-hook ' org-mobile-pre-pull-hook > > (lambda () (shell-command "scp hindiogine@mydisk.se:org/mobile.org > > ~/stage "))) > > (add-hook 'org-mobile-post-pull-hook > > (lambda () (shell-command "scp ~/stage/mobileorg.org > > hindiogine@mydisk.se:org]/"))) > > I think with the webdav-approach you have to delete these hooks. Comment > them out and restart Emacs. > > Good luck > > Sven > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 4313 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 201 bytes --] _______________________________________________ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
* Re: MobileOrg for Android starts to become really usable 2010-06-02 17:22 ` Daniel Martins @ 2010-06-02 19:35 ` Daniel Martins 0 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread From: Daniel Martins @ 2010-06-02 19:35 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Sven Bretfeld; +Cc: emacs-org [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 3183 bytes --] PROBLEM solved!!! I have put the link in index.org directly but without an "*" [[file.org]] and not * [[file.org]] I sincerely feel that this "* " could be optional Daniel 2010/6/2 Daniel Martins <danielemc@gmail.com> > I am having a problem with syncing. > > I created a webdav on my lab server. > > I access it from the Android navigator and I made a test with MobileOrg for > Iphone with a friend of mine. > > Both cases worked perfect > > However when I use sync nothing happens. The screen remains completely > black. > > > I can use capture (I used both version 0.4 and developments with quite the > same results) but I cannot sync again > > My webadav is something > > http://IPADDRESS/webdav/index.org > > where IPADDRESS is the IP address of the server 150.***.***.*** > > Daniel > > 2010/5/31 Sven Bretfeld <sven.bretfeld@gmx.ch> > > Hi Enrico >> >> Enrico Indiogine <hindiogine@gmail.com> writes: >> >> > Thanks to the help from you all I managed to install the latest >> > development version of org-mobile-android on my Xperia X10. I set up >> > my .emacs for stage push-pull and have a mydisk.se account with an org >> > directory. >> > >> > M-x push will fail with an ssh timeout. I think it has to do with the >> > fact that Emacs has no way of knowing the mydisk.se password. >> >> Try another approach. You are under Ubuntu, aren't you? I'm also under >> Ubuntu and I use mydisk.se. So this should also work for you: >> >> 1. sudo apt-get install davfs2 >> >> 2. sudo adduser enrico davfs (I don't remember if this is really the >> groupname, maybe it's davfs2) >> >> 3. edit the file /etc/fstab -> add a line at the end: >> >> https://mydisk.se/yourusername /home/enrico/webdav davfs >> user,noauto 0 0 >> >> 4. edit the file /etc/davfs2/secrets, add the following line: >> >> /home/enrico/webdav yourmydiskusername yourmydiskpasswd >> >> 5. mkdir ~/webdav >> >> 6. sudo dpkg-reconfigure davfs2 --> set the SUID Bit (i.e. just say "yes") >> >> 7. mount ~/webdav >> >> Now, your folders of mydisk.se should appear under ~/webdav. Then tell >> Emacs (org-mobile) to use this folder instead of scp. I just used >> customize to set the org-mobile-directory. >> >> > This in in my .emacs: >> > >> > (setq org-mobile-files (quote ("~/org/agenda.org"))) >> > (setq org-mobile-directory "~/stage/") >> >> Change this to "~/webdav" or use "stage" in the procedure above. >> >> > (add-hook 'org-mobile-post-push-hook >> > (lambda () (shell-command "scp -r ~/stage/* hindiogine@mydisk.se: >> org/"))) >> > (add-hook ' org-mobile-pre-pull-hook >> > (lambda () (shell-command "scp hindiogine@mydisk.se:org/mobile.org >> > ~/stage "))) >> > (add-hook 'org-mobile-post-pull-hook >> > (lambda () (shell-command "scp ~/stage/mobileorg.org >> > hindiogine@mydisk.se:org]/"))) >> >> I think with the webdav-approach you have to delete these hooks. Comment >> them out and restart Emacs. >> >> Good luck >> >> Sven >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Emacs-orgmode mailing list >> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. >> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode >> > > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 5023 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 201 bytes --] _______________________________________________ Emacs-orgmode mailing list Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread
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