From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Dave Kritzberg Subject: Re: Re: MobileOrg for Android starts to become really usable Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 15:15:11 -0700 Message-ID: References: <87sk5cwg4f.fsf@gmx.ch> <1275071226.14727.8.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1691863513==" Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=55720 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OZAEo-0003ZJ-58 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2010 18:15:35 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OZAEm-0000Ca-D9 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2010 18:15:34 -0400 Received: from mail-gy0-f169.google.com ([209.85.160.169]:59846) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OZAEm-0000CT-8t for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Jul 2010 18:15:32 -0400 Received: by gyd12 with SMTP id 12so283326gyd.0 for ; Wed, 14 Jul 2010 15:15:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Richard Moreland Cc: emacs-orgmode --===============1691863513== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd350f4ec7d7b048b605238 --000e0cd350f4ec7d7b048b605238 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Richard! I've been holding off on the upgrade -- mobileorg is an important app ;) Thanks, Dave On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 7:26 AM, Richard Moreland wrote: > Hi Dave, > > I've been using the current version of MobileOrg on iOS 4.0 since an > early beta and haven't had any trouble. In addition, I've been > testing a new version that builds against the 4.0 SDK and thus > benefits from some of the new features like instant state save and > restore/multitasking. > > -Richard > > On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 1:56 AM, Dave Kritzberg > wrote: > > Hello Matthew and Orgmode Users, > > > > Is there any compatibility issue with mobile-org and the iPhone OS v. 4= ? > > > > Thanks, > > Dave Kritzberg > > > > > > On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Matthew Jones > wrote: > >> > >> With regard to the note capture display, I'm not sure how I feel about > >> this... I like having the save button on the page because it reduces t= he > >> number of clicks to save the note which can be huge if you are just > trying > >> to quickly jot something down. I do, however, need to fix it so that > the > >> Save button is always visible. The thing about this particular > Activity > >> display is that the text box is always fixed to some percentage of the > >> display... so that the save button would never be off the page but > rather > >> the Text box would scroll if you had too much text in it. I may > consider > >> adding the save button to a menu once I add more options to the Captur= e > >> screen (like adding a TODO flag, or Tags) but I think it's most > intuitive if > >> the save button is on the display.... mainly because you can't miss it= , > some > >> things about Android happen in the background so that if you navigate > away > >> from the page it automatically saves the contents... but that's not ho= w > this > >> capture page works (and I don't know that I would want it to > automatically > >> save if you hit the back button) this allows it to fit into the workfl= ow > and > >> makes it obvious that you have to hit the save button to accomplish th= e > save > >> action. These are just my thoughts. As I bake out the Capture > system I > >> will certainly revisit it if the flow works better to have it under th= e > >> 'Menu' action. > >> 73, > >> Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB) > >> http://matburt.net > >> > >> > >> On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Robert Goldman > >> wrote: > >>> > >>> julien cubizolles free.fr> writes: > >>> > >>> > > >>> > Le vendredi 28 mai 2010 =E0 11:05 +0200, Sven Bretfeld a =E9crit : > >>> > > Hi to all, hi Matthew > >>> > > > >>> > > I can say that Note capturing works on my HTC > >>> > > Magic, > >>> > Working also on my LG GW620, however the SAVE Button gets hidden by > the > >>> on-screen keyboard. > >>> > I think I've seen other android apps keeping some buttons visible > >>> > whether the keyboard is or isn't displayed. > >>> > >>> If I might comment --- one of the worst things about Android > >>> applications, IMO, > >>> is the way they are confusing about whether menus should be displayed > in > >>> page, > >>> or invoked by the menu button. > >>> > >>> I'd urge you to avoid the on-page display in favor of the menu button= . > >>> If you > >>> stick to that the user never needs to remember to scroll down to find > the > >>> controls and there are just too many ways for the on-page display to = be > >>> rendered > >>> either hard to reach or completely inaccessible. This problem is mad= e > >>> worse > >>> (especially by contrast with the iPhone) because you don't have full > >>> knowledge > >>> of the screen dimensions. > >>> > >>> So I'd suggest that if a button is important (save, send, schedule, > etc.) > >>> that > >>> you make it reachable by the center menu button. > >>> > >>> HtH, > >>> cheers, > >>> r > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list > >>> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > >>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > >>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Emacs-orgmode mailing list > >> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > >> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > >> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > > > > > --000e0cd350f4ec7d7b048b605238 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Richard!

I've been holding off on the upgrade -- mobileor= g is an important app ;)

Thanks,
Dave


On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 7:26 AM, Richard= Moreland <rlm@ncogni= .to> wrote:
Hi Dave,

I've been using the current version of MobileOrg on iOS 4.0 since an early beta and haven't had any trouble. =A0In addition, I've been testing a new version that builds against the 4.0 SDK and thus
benefits from some of the new features like instant state save and
restore/multitasking.

-Richard

On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 1:56 AM, Dave Kritzberg
<dave.kritzberg@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello Matthew and Orgmode Users,
>
> Is there any compatibility issue with mobile-org and the iPhone OS v. = 4?
>
> Thanks,
> Dave Kritzberg
>
>
> On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Matthew Jones <bsdmatburt@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> With regard to the note capture display, I'm not sure how I fe= el about
>> this... I like having the save button on the page because it reduc= es the
>> number of clicks to save the note which can be huge if you are jus= t trying
>> to quickly jot something down. =A0 I do, however, need to fix it s= o that the
>> Save button is always visible. =A0 =A0The thing about this particu= lar Activity
>> display is that the text box is always fixed to some percentage of= the
>> display... so that the save button would never be off the page but= rather
>> the Text box would scroll if you had too much text in it. =A0 I ma= y consider
>> adding the save button to a menu once I add more options to the Ca= pture
>> screen (like adding a TODO flag, or Tags) but I think it's mos= t intuitive if
>> the save button is on the display.... mainly because you can't= miss it, some
>> things about Android happen in the background so that if you navig= ate away
>> from the page it automatically saves the contents... but that'= s not how this
>> capture page works (and I don't know that I would want it to a= utomatically
>> save if you hit the back button) this allows it to fit into the wo= rkflow and
>> makes it obvious that you have to hit the save button to accomplis= h the save
>> action. =A0 =A0 These are just my thoughts. =A0 As I bake out the = Capture system I
>> will certainly revisit it if the flow works better to have it unde= r the
>> 'Menu' action.
>> 73,
>> Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB)
>> http://matburt.ne= t
>>
>>
>> On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Robert Goldman <rpgoldman@sift.info>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> julien cubizolles <j.cubizolles <at> free.fr> writes:
>>>
>>> >
>>> > Le vendredi 28 mai 2010 =E0 11:05 +0200, Sven Bretfeld a = =E9crit :
>>> > > Hi to all, hi Matthew
>>> > >
>>> > > I can say that Note capturing works on my HTC
>>> > > Magic,
>>> > Working also on my LG GW620, however the SAVE Button gets= hidden by the
>>> on-screen keyboard.
>>> > I think I've seen other android apps keeping some but= tons visible
>>> > whether the keyboard is or isn't displayed.
>>>
>>> If I might comment --- one of the worst things about Android >>> applications, IMO,
>>> is the way they are confusing about whether menus should be di= splayed in
>>> page,
>>> or invoked by the menu button.
>>>
>>> I'd urge you to avoid the on-page display in favor of the = menu button.
>>> =A0If you
>>> stick to that the user never needs to remember to scroll down = to find the
>>> controls and there are just too many ways for the on-page disp= lay to be
>>> rendered
>>> either hard to reach or completely inaccessible. =A0This probl= em is made
>>> worse
>>> (especially by contrast with the iPhone) because you don't= have full
>>> knowledge
>>> of the screen dimensions.
>>>
>>> So I'd suggest that if a button is important (save, send, = schedule, etc.)
>>> that
>>> you make it reachable by the center menu button.
>>>
>>> HtH,
>>> cheers,
>>> r
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
>>> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
>>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org=
>>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode=
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
>> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org=
>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
>>
>
>
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