From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Dave Kritzberg Subject: Re: Re: MobileOrg for Android starts to become really usable Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 22:56:06 -0700 Message-ID: References: <87sk5cwg4f.fsf@gmx.ch> <1275071226.14727.8.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0230922789==" Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=50990 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OXpWf-0000tx-D8 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jul 2010 01:56:30 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OXpWd-0000tM-OE for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jul 2010 01:56:29 -0400 Received: from mail-gy0-f169.google.com ([209.85.160.169]:41027) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OXpWd-0000tG-Jc for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Sun, 11 Jul 2010 01:56:27 -0400 Received: by gyf1 with SMTP id 1so2708586gyf.0 for ; Sat, 10 Jul 2010 22:56:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: Matthew Jones Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Robert Goldman --===============0230922789== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd4cd76eb879f048b164b65 --000e0cd4cd76eb879f048b164b65 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Matthew and Orgmode Users, Is there any compatibility issue with mobile-org and the iPhone OS v. 4? Thanks, Dave Kritzberg On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Matthew Jones wrote= : > With regard to the note capture display, I'm not sure how I feel about > this... I like having the save button on the page because it reduces the > number of clicks to save the note which can be huge if you are just tryin= g > to quickly jot something down. I do, however, need to fix it so that th= e > Save button is always visible. The thing about this particular Activit= y > display is that the text box is always fixed to some percentage of the > display... so that the save button would never be off the page but rather > the Text box would scroll if you had too much text in it. I may conside= r > adding the save button to a menu once I add more options to the Capture > screen (like adding a TODO flag, or Tags) but I think it's most intuitive= if > the save button is on the display.... mainly because you can't miss it, s= ome > things about Android happen in the background so that if you navigate awa= y > from the page it automatically saves the contents... but that's not how t= his > capture page works (and I don't know that I would want it to automaticall= y > save if you hit the back button) this allows it to fit into the workflow = and > makes it obvious that you have to hit the save button to accomplish the s= ave > action. These are just my thoughts. As I bake out the Capture syste= m I > will certainly revisit it if the flow works better to have it under the > 'Menu' action. > > 73, > Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB) > http://matburt.net > > > On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Robert Goldman wro= te: > >> julien cubizolles free.fr> writes: >> >> > >> > Le vendredi 28 mai 2010 =E0 11:05 +0200, Sven Bretfeld a =E9crit : >> > > Hi to all, hi Matthew >> > > >> > > I can say that Note capturing works on my HTC >> > > Magic, >> > Working also on my LG GW620, however the SAVE Button gets hidden by th= e >> on-screen keyboard. >> > I think I've seen other android apps keeping some buttons visible >> > whether the keyboard is or isn't displayed. >> >> If I might comment --- one of the worst things about Android application= s, >> IMO, >> is the way they are confusing about whether menus should be displayed in >> page, >> or invoked by the menu button. >> >> I'd urge you to avoid the on-page display in favor of the menu button. = If >> you >> stick to that the user never needs to remember to scroll down to find th= e >> controls and there are just too many ways for the on-page display to be >> rendered >> either hard to reach or completely inaccessible. This problem is made >> worse >> (especially by contrast with the iPhone) because you don't have full >> knowledge >> of the screen dimensions. >> >> So I'd suggest that if a button is important (save, send, schedule, etc.= ) >> that >> you make it reachable by the center menu button. >> >> HtH, >> cheers, >> r >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Emacs-orgmode mailing list >> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. >> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Emacs-orgmode mailing list > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode > > --000e0cd4cd76eb879f048b164b65 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Matthew and Orgmode Users,

Is there any compatibility issue wi= th mobile-org and the iPhone OS v. 4?

Thanks,
Dave = Kritzberg


On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 4:33 PM, Matthew= Jones <bsdmat= burt@gmail.com> wrote:
With regard to the note capture display, I'm not sure how I feel about = this... I like having the save button on the page because it reduces the nu= mber of clicks to save the note which can be huge if you are just trying to= quickly jot something down. =A0 I do, however, need to fix it so that the = Save button is always visible. =A0 =A0The thing about this particular Activ= ity display is that the text box is always fixed to some percentage of the = display... so that the save button would never be off the page but rather t= he Text box would scroll if you had too much text in it. =A0 I may consider= adding the save button to a menu once I add more options to the Capture sc= reen (like adding a TODO flag, or Tags) but I think it's most intuitive= if the save button is on the display.... mainly because you can't miss= it, some things about Android happen in the background so that if you navi= gate away from the page it automatically saves the contents... but that'= ;s not how this capture page works (and I don't know that I would want = it to automatically save if you hit the back button) this allows it to fit = into the workflow and makes it obvious that you have to hit the save button= to accomplish the save action. =A0 =A0 These are just my thoughts. =A0 As = I bake out the Capture system I will certainly revisit it if the flow works= better to have it under the 'Menu' action.

73,
Matthew W. Jones (KI4ZIB)
http://matburt.net


= On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 12:21 PM, Robert Goldman <rpgoldman@sift.info> wrote:
julien cubizolles <j.cubizolles <at> free.fr> writes:

>
> Le vendredi 28 mai 2010 =E0 11:05 +0200, Sven Bretfeld a =E9crit :
> > Hi to all, hi Matthew
> >
> > I can say that Note capturing works on my HTC
> > Magic,
> Working also on my LG GW620, however the SAVE Button gets hidden by th= e
on-screen keyboard.
> I think I've seen other android apps keeping some buttons visible<= br> > whether the keyboard is or isn't displayed.

If I might comment --- one of the worst things about Android applicat= ions, IMO,
is the way they are confusing about whether menus should be displayed in pa= ge,
or invoked by the menu button.

I'd urge you to avoid the on-page display in favor of the menu button. = =A0If you
stick to that the user never needs to remember to scroll down to find the controls and there are just too many ways for the on-page display to be ren= dered
either hard to reach or completely inaccessible. =A0This problem is made wo= rse
(especially by contrast with the iPhone) because you don't have full kn= owledge
of the screen dimensions.

So I'd suggest that if a button is important (save, send, schedule, etc= .) that
you make it reachable by the center menu button.

HtH,
cheers,
r



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