From: Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr>
To: "Bruce D'Arcus" <bdarcus@gmail.com>
Cc: denis.maier.lists@mailbox.org,
"emacs-orgmode@gnu.org" <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: wip-cite status question and feedback
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2020 12:38:01 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87h7xp0z1y.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAF-FPGNPe3ZDqnPTpFhCKbyS6yxCKO+hAoFKhWYHQ15PXrDvYQ@mail.gmail.com> (Bruce D'Arcus's message of "Sat, 11 Apr 2020 18:05:27 -0400")
Hello,
"Bruce D'Arcus" <bdarcus@gmail.com> writes:
> I'm not 100% sure, but I think citet meets that goal also, so Denis'
> suggestion might work.
I hadn't realised that AuthorInText was a Citeproc(-hs) interpretation
of CSL.
Anyway, Org cite syntax should:
- fully support CSL,
- allow changing globally style of cites,
- be extensible enough to support « advanced » citation markup (NatBib,
Biblatex…),
- degrade gracefully when using less advanced markup,
- be short enough
Here's a proposal for a definitive citation syntax.
This syntax implements one default cite command, and specialized (or
typed) ones.
The default citation command is, as usual:
[cite: ... @key1...]
with allowed global pre/post strings, and a minus marker to specify
SuppressAuthor per cite.
I assume that [cite:@key] is common enough, so bare @key is a shorthand
for it. Likewise, -@key is a shorthand for [cite:-@key].
Default citations uses the default citation style, which could be
defined globally (by a defcustom), locally (keyword, or property), or
per ".bib" file.
The syntax also provides typed citations:
[citeX: ... @key1...]
where X stands for any alphanumeric character.
A typed citation is meant to locally override default style. Each
citation back-ends may interpret "X" type, but if they don't, "citeX"
should be treated as "cite".
For example, assuming Citeproc treats
[cite:@doe]
as (Doe, 2020), then
[citet:@doe]
could be interpreted as AuthorInText by Citeproc, i.e.,
Doe (2020)
but
[citep:@doe]
could be ignored, and therefore become
(Doe, 2020)
Of course Biblatex may interpret it differently.
Note that the following proposal drops support for [@key1], which
I found awkward anyway.
WDYT?
--
Nicolas Goaziou
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2020-04-10 9:29 wip-cite status question and feedback denis.maier.lists
2020-04-10 12:22 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-10 22:56 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-04-11 21:42 ` denis.maier.lists
2020-04-11 22:05 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-12 10:38 ` Nicolas Goaziou [this message]
2020-04-12 11:15 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-12 14:02 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-04-12 14:25 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-12 15:32 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-04-12 15:44 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-12 15:57 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-04-12 17:17 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-12 20:49 ` denis.maier.lists
2020-04-12 22:19 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-04-13 8:33 ` Stefan Nobis
2020-04-13 10:02 ` Denis Maier
2020-04-13 10:11 ` denis.maier.lists
2020-04-13 10:05 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-13 10:14 ` denis.maier.lists
2020-04-13 9:58 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-13 10:09 ` denis.maier.lists
2020-04-13 10:10 ` Joost Kremers
2020-04-13 10:46 ` Stefan Nobis
2020-04-15 5:54 ` Richard Lawrence
2020-04-15 10:07 ` Joost Kremers
2020-04-18 9:34 ` Richard Lawrence
2020-04-18 10:56 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-18 12:48 ` Richard Lawrence
2020-04-18 13:17 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-18 13:22 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-18 20:23 ` Denis Maier
2020-04-18 20:28 ` denis.maier.lists
2020-04-19 9:11 ` Richard Lawrence
2020-04-25 16:19 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-04-25 17:00 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-25 20:03 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-04-25 21:18 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-05-01 17:38 ` Richard Lawrence
2020-05-01 17:54 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-05-02 14:06 ` Nicolas Goaziou
[not found] ` <2fbf14cf-ae8c-4f7c-27f7-33771aa99492@mailbox.org>
2020-05-02 16:34 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-05-02 17:24 ` Denis Maier
2020-05-02 13:13 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-05-02 13:45 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-05-02 20:45 ` Richard Lawrence
2020-04-29 9:14 ` Denis Maier
2020-05-02 9:51 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-05-02 11:53 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-18 20:38 ` Joost Kremers
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2020-04-07 15:15 Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-07 17:51 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-04-07 18:27 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-07 18:31 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-07 21:13 ` Joost Kremers
2020-04-08 0:01 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-08 9:16 ` Joost Kremers
2020-04-08 9:32 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-04-08 12:19 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-08 13:39 ` John Kitchin
2020-04-08 16:12 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-09 7:38 ` Albert Krewinkel
2020-04-09 9:30 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-09 9:46 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-09 10:05 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-09 23:17 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2020-04-10 1:17 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-10 5:38 ` Albert Krewinkel
2020-04-11 11:41 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-04-13 12:05 ` Gustav Wikström
2020-04-13 12:33 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-05-24 12:12 ` Bastien
2020-05-24 13:17 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-05-29 21:59 ` András Simonyi
2020-05-29 22:24 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-05-29 22:58 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-06-03 14:40 ` Bastien
2020-06-03 14:53 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2020-12-14 21:24 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-03-24 13:22 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-03-24 18:27 ` M. ‘quintus’ Gülker
2021-04-11 23:15 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-12 13:19 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-04-12 18:53 ` András Simonyi
2021-04-16 17:05 ` András Simonyi
2021-04-16 17:23 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-18 13:11 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-04-18 13:35 ` Ihor Radchenko
2021-04-18 13:37 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-21 19:57 ` John Kitchin
2021-04-21 20:09 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-21 20:57 ` John Kitchin
2021-04-21 20:26 ` John Kitchin
2021-04-21 20:54 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-22 2:47 ` Timothy
2021-04-22 12:07 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-22 12:34 ` Timothy
2021-04-21 21:47 ` András Simonyi
2021-04-21 23:51 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-04-22 0:01 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-22 0:15 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-04-23 11:49 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-04-23 12:55 ` András Simonyi
2021-04-23 13:10 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-23 13:24 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-23 14:50 ` András Simonyi
2021-04-23 22:08 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-24 17:37 ` M. ‘quintus’ Gülker
2021-04-24 17:47 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-04-24 18:39 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-26 14:54 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-26 20:35 ` Denis Maier
2021-04-27 10:12 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-27 10:20 ` Timothy
2021-04-27 11:44 ` Denis Maier
2021-04-27 12:32 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-27 13:58 ` Denis Maier
2021-04-27 14:07 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-04-27 14:50 ` Denis Maier
2021-04-30 13:28 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-04-30 21:47 ` Denis Maier
2021-05-01 11:09 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-05-01 13:26 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-02 21:58 ` Denis Maier
2021-05-02 22:18 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-02 23:30 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-05 13:46 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-05 18:14 ` M. ‘quintus’ Gülker
2021-05-05 18:27 ` Bruce D'Arcus
2021-05-06 17:05 ` M. ‘quintus’ Gülker
2021-05-06 8:08 ` Denis Maier
2021-04-24 13:14 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-04-23 12:03 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-04-23 13:34 ` András Simonyi
2021-04-17 19:13 ` M. ‘quintus’ Gülker
2021-04-18 16:17 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-04-20 13:32 ` Matt Price
2021-04-21 17:07 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2021-04-21 17:53 ` Bruce D'Arcus
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