From: "Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" <arne_bab@web.de>
To: Arthur Miller <arthur.miller@live.com>
Cc: Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com>, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: The fate of ditaa.jar (9.4.5.)
Date: Tue, 11 May 2021 22:53:30 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87h7j9hu0l.fsf@web.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AM9PR09MB49771EBA5C1F40E5468774E296539@AM9PR09MB4977.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com>
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Arthur Miller <arthur.miller@live.com> writes:
> Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com> writes:
>
>> If org-mode wants to support ditaa, it is a requirement to inform the user how to
>> get the software and install it. Moving into into a separate repository without
>> appropriately telling the user introduces the problem that users will miss out
>> on free software that they would otherwise have used. Using org should not be made
>> more difficult than it already is.
>>
> Another problem I didn't mention in previous replay, is that user can
> have wrong (outdated) version of Java installed on his/her machine which
> might not be compatible with ditaa version org mode ships, which may
> introduce further questions and problems. IMO I think it is better to
> leave out 3rd party applications and let users install those on their
> own.
The old version should just keep working. It requires a Java older than
Java 8, and Java 8 is available everywhere.
For the new releases that is less clear, since ditaa is adding Clojure.
I would bundle the old version to keep old documents working (I do not
want org-mode to be volatile software[1] that breaks existing documents
with an update), but notify the user that a new version exists.
[1]: https://stevelosh.com/blog/2012/04/volatile-software/
Best wishes,
Arne
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Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-05-10 11:28 The fate of ditaa.jar (9.4.5.) Jarmo Hurri
2021-05-10 11:50 ` Eric S Fraga
2021-05-10 12:28 ` Russell Adams
2021-05-10 17:07 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2021-05-10 20:49 ` Arthur Miller
2021-05-11 1:22 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-05-11 18:56 ` Arthur Miller
2021-05-11 20:53 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide [this message]
2021-05-12 8:44 ` Arthur Miller
2021-05-12 9:41 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2021-05-12 14:51 ` Russell Adams
2021-05-13 12:44 ` Jarmo Hurri
2021-05-13 14:06 ` Arthur Miller
2021-05-13 20:08 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2021-05-14 1:13 ` Arthur Miller
2021-05-14 5:30 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2021-05-14 5:39 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-05-14 11:23 ` Arthur Miller
2021-05-14 11:57 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-05-10 18:41 ` Nick Dokos
2021-05-11 1:25 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-05-11 4:33 ` Tim Cross
2021-05-11 6:35 ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2021-05-11 6:53 ` he " Christopher Dimech
2021-05-11 8:36 ` The " Tim Cross
2021-05-11 12:52 ` TEC
2021-05-11 19:15 ` Arthur Miller
2021-05-12 0:06 ` Tim Cross
2021-05-12 8:47 ` Arthur Miller
2021-05-15 17:31 ` [External] : " Daniel Ortmann
2021-05-11 19:02 ` Arthur Miller
2021-05-16 12:19 ` Bastien
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