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From: Arthur Miller <arthur.miller@live.com>
To: Jarmo Hurri <jarmo.hurri@iki.fi>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: The fate of ditaa.jar (9.4.5.)
Date: Thu, 13 May 2021 16:06:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <AM9PR09MB4977A7015BB6A9DB9C24C86696519@AM9PR09MB4977.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87zgwy952d.fsf@iki.fi> (Jarmo Hurri's message of "Thu, 13 May 2021 15:44:10 +0300")

Jarmo Hurri <jarmo.hurri@iki.fi> writes:

> Greetings.
>
> "Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide" <arne_bab@web.de> writes:
>
>> Arthur Miller <arthur.miller@live.com> writes:
>>
>>> By the way, how difficult is to download one file from the internet
>>> (ditaa.jar) if you are an user?
>>
>> That’s not the point. The point is that every single user with a ditaa
>> block has to do it.
>>
>> Ask the other way round: What is the benefit of removing ditaa from
>> org?  If you want to force most current org-ditaa users to unbreak
>> their setup after update, there should be a significant tangible
>> benefit.
>
> I agree.
>
> One thing I like about org is that most things work out of the box.

If bundled ditaa is not compatible with jre installed on users
computer, or there is no jre installed, and user is not a programmer or
used to Java, how many steps it adds to such a user to sort out why org
does not work for him/her "out of the box"? Just to save some experienced
user an extra step, that probably does not even affect them since they
already have java and ditaa on their computers.

> Comparing ditaa to latex/java/C/such does not feel fair, since distros
Ditaa requires jre to work. Should org distribute a version of jre too
to make it sure it works on user computer "out of the box"?



  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-13 14:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-10 11:28 Jarmo Hurri
2021-05-10 11:50 ` Eric S Fraga
2021-05-10 12:28 ` Russell Adams
2021-05-10 17:07   ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2021-05-10 20:49     ` Arthur Miller
2021-05-11  1:22       ` Christopher Dimech
2021-05-11 18:56         ` Arthur Miller
2021-05-11 20:53           ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2021-05-12  8:44             ` Arthur Miller
2021-05-12  9:41               ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2021-05-12 14:51                 ` Russell Adams
2021-05-13 12:44                 ` Jarmo Hurri
2021-05-13 14:06                   ` Arthur Miller [this message]
2021-05-13 20:08                     ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2021-05-14  1:13                       ` Arthur Miller
2021-05-14  5:30                         ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2021-05-14  5:39                           ` Christopher Dimech
2021-05-14 11:23                             ` Arthur Miller
2021-05-14 11:57                               ` Christopher Dimech
2021-05-10 18:41 ` Nick Dokos
2021-05-11  1:25   ` Christopher Dimech
2021-05-11  4:33   ` Tim Cross
2021-05-11  6:35     ` Dr. Arne Babenhauserheide
2021-05-11  6:53       ` he " Christopher Dimech
2021-05-11  8:36       ` The " Tim Cross
2021-05-11 12:52         ` TEC
2021-05-11 19:15           ` Arthur Miller
2021-05-12  0:06           ` Tim Cross
2021-05-12  8:47             ` Arthur Miller
2021-05-15 17:31           ` [External] : " Daniel Ortmann
2021-05-11 19:02       ` Arthur Miller
2021-05-16 12:19 ` Bastien

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