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From: Christian Moe <mail@christianmoe.com>
To: Matt Price <moptop99@gmail.com>
Cc: orgmode list <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: exporting zotxt or orgref links to HTML and ODF
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 15:41:21 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2siewuvzi.fsf@christianmoe.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAN_Dec9qBWWWgdX+wQhdgbthMg_ZOgbOMFoXFixSc4=74avMjw@mail.gmail.com>


Well, color me embarrassed. I never even noticed the switch to
zotxt. And I never tried with Standalone either. Just tinkered happily
away with Eric's excellent old solution and Firefox. Maybe I should check
out both before posting an obsolute solution with unnecessary
dependencies...

Will report back in a little while.

Yours,
Christian

Matt Price writes:

> Christian,
>
> I would love to see this.  I am using Erik's rewritten
> zotero-plain/org-zotero (zotxt-emacs); it works fine with
> zotero-standalone, so MozRepl not required, I don't think.  I'm not sure if
> the link syntax is still the same as in the original versions.
>
> So yes, please do send the code if you are willing.  If you have hints
> about the more ambitious citation system, I and I'm sure others would love
> to see them.
>
> thanks,
> Matt
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 4:18 AM, Christian Moe <mail@christianmoe.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> Matt Price writes:
>>
>> > My question: does anyone yet have a workflow that lets them export
>> directly
>> > to HTML or ODT?
>>
>> Hi, Matt,
>>
>> Yes, now I have not just a workflow, but a code solution for
>> Org/Zotero/ODT export that has been tried and tested for a while. It now
>> supports multiple references in one citation, prefixes, suffixes,
>> locators, and year-only citations, and produces 'live' Zotero refmarks
>> in ODT, so you can do all the changes you want in LibreOffice
>> afterward. It also does some very limited but useful things for html
>> (DOI links and links that will work on Wordpress blogs with Katie
>> Seaborn's ZotPress extension).
>>
>> It depends on Eric Hetzner's excellent zotero-plain and org-zotero
>> packages, and hence on the MozRepl extension on the Firefox side, though
>> you can use the ODT export functionality itself without those
>> dependencies.
>>
>> I haven't yet announced it on the list, for three reasons. 1) Not very
>> polished. There's some messy code, a poor man's user interface, and no
>> editing support for multiple citations (but support for exporting
>> them!). 2) It's part of a more ambitious project I set myself for an
>> all-round citation system that I never got on with. 3) It uses this cool
>> idea I had for how to use citation links differently, but it imposes
>> certain syntax conventions on the user, and they may yet change in
>> backward-incompatible ways if I develop this further.
>>
>> If this sounds interesting, I can post the code here 'as is' for you to
>> try out, but I'd better update the docs first, which could take a day or
>> two.
>>
>> Yours,
>> Christian
>>
>>
>> > I've just tried using zotxt again (
>> > https://bitbucket.org/egh/zotxt-emacs/overview -- first time in a
>> while);
>> > it is remarkably easy to use in Org itself.  By default, though, the
>> links
>> > simply aren't handled in the HTML and ODT exports, and so the cites will
>> be
>> > completely absent.
>> >
>> > Here is the text inserted by zotxt for a single citation:
>> >
>> > ----------------
>> >
>> > [[zotero://select/items/0_TI27HJ5I][Suchman, Lucy. “Subject Objects.”
>> > Feminist Theory 12, no. 2 (August 1, 2011): 119–45.
>> >
>> http://resolver.scholarsportal.info/resolve/14647001/v12i0002/119_so.xml.
>> ]]
>> > ---------------
>> >
>> > In HTML, I would like to replace this with something like this:
>> >
>> > (<a href="#BibSuchman2011">Suchman 2011</a>)
>> >
>> > and then have Org generate a bibligraphy somewhere, a bit like org-ref
>> > seems to do, It would be nice if I could steal the styles from somehwere,
>> > the way org-ref seems to do.
>> >
>> > For ODT< it seems a little more complicated. Here is the rather lengthy
>> > equivalent that Zotero itself produces for my default style (Chicago) in
>> > Libreoffice:
>> > ---------------
>> > <text:note text:id="ftn0"
>> >
>> text:note-class="footnote"><text:note-citation>1</text:note-citation><text:note-body><text:p
>> > text:style-name="Footnote"><text:reference-mark-start
>> > text:name="ZOTERO_ITEM CSL_CITATION
>> >
>> {&quot;citationID&quot;:&quot;5xzXuF2I&quot;,&quot;properties&quot;:{&quot;formattedCitation&quot;:&quot;{\\rtf
>> > Lucy Suchman, \\uc0\\u8220{}Subject Objects,\\uc0\\u8221{} \\i Feminist
>> > Theory\\i0{} 12, no. 2 (August 1, 2011): 119\\uc0\\u8211{}45,
>> >
>> http://resolver.scholarsportal.info/resolve/14647001/v12i0002/119_so.xml.}&quot
>> ;,&quot;plainCitation&quot;:&quot;Lucy
>> > Suchman, “Subject Objects,” Feminist Theory 12, no. 2 (August 1, 2011):
>> > 119–45,
>> >
>> http://resolver.scholarsportal.info/resolve/14647001/v12i0002/119_so.xml.&quot
>> ;
>> > },&quot;citationItems&quot;:[{&quot;id&quot;:149,&quot;uris&quot;:[&quot;
>> > http://zotero.org/users/20/items/TI27HJ5I&quot;],&quot;uri&quot;:[&quot;
>> > http://zotero.org/users/20/items/TI27HJ5I&quot;
>> ],&quot;itemData&quot;:{&quot;id&quot;:149,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;article-journal&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;Subject
>> > objects&quot;,&quot;container-title&quot;:&quot;Feminist
>> >
>> Theory&quot;,&quot;page&quot;:&quot;119-145&quot;,&quot;volume&quot;:&quot;12&quot;,&quot;issue&quot;:&quot;2&quot;,&quot;URL&quot;:&quot;
>> >
>> http://resolver.scholarsportal.info/resolve/14647001/v12i0002/119_so.xml&quot
>> >
>> ;,&quot;ISSN&quot;:&quot;14647001&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:[{&quot;family&quot;:&quot;Suchman&quot;,&quot;given&quot;:&quot;Lucy&quot;}],&quot;issued&quot;:{&quot;date-parts&quot;:[[&quot;2011&quot;,8,1]]}}}],&quot;schema&quot;:&quot;
>> >
>> https://github.com/citation-style-language/schema/raw/master/csl-citation.json&quot
>> ;}
>> > RNDuhNYYpC1hN"/><text:span text:style-name="T3">Lucy Suchman, “Subject
>> > Objects,” </text:span><text:span text:style-name="T4">Feminist
>> > Theory</text:span><text:span text:style-name="T5"> 12, no. 2 (August 1,
>> > 2011): 119–45,
>> > http://resolver.scholarsportal.info/resolve/14647001/v12i0002/119_so.xml
>> .</text:span><text:reference-mark-end
>> > text:name="ZOTERO_ITEM CSL_CITATION
>> >
>> {&quot;citationID&quot;:&quot;5xzXuF2I&quot;,&quot;properties&quot;:{&quot;formattedCitation&quot;:&quot;{\\rtf
>> > Lucy Suchman, \\uc0\\u8220{}Subject Objects,\\uc0\\u8221{} \\i Feminist
>> > Theory\\i0{} 12, no. 2 (August 1, 2011): 119\\uc0\\u8211{}45,
>> >
>> http://resolver.scholarsportal.info/resolve/14647001/v12i0002/119_so.xml.}&quot
>> ;,&quot;plainCitation&quot;:&quot;Lucy
>> > Suchman, “Subject Objects,” Feminist Theory 12, no. 2 (August 1, 2011):
>> > 119–45,
>> >
>> http://resolver.scholarsportal.info/resolve/14647001/v12i0002/119_so.xml.&quot
>> ;
>> > },&quot;citationItems&quot;:[{&quot;id&quot;:149,&quot;uris&quot;:[&quot;
>> > http://zotero.org/users/20/items/TI27HJ5I&quot;],&quot;uri&quot;:[&quot;
>> > http://zotero.org/users/20/items/TI27HJ5I&quot;
>> ],&quot;itemData&quot;:{&quot;id&quot;:149,&quot;type&quot;:&quot;article-journal&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;Subject
>> > objects&quot;,&quot;container-title&quot;:&quot;Feminist
>> >
>> Theory&quot;,&quot;page&quot;:&quot;119-145&quot;,&quot;volume&quot;:&quot;12&quot;,&quot;issue&quot;:&quot;2&quot;,&quot;URL&quot;:&quot;
>> >
>> http://resolver.scholarsportal.info/resolve/14647001/v12i0002/119_so.xml&quot
>> >
>> ;,&quot;ISSN&quot;:&quot;14647001&quot;,&quot;author&quot;:[{&quot;family&quot;:&quot;Suchman&quot;,&quot;given&quot;:&quot;Lucy&quot;}],&quot;issued&quot;:{&quot;date-parts&quot;:[[&quot;2011&quot;,8,1]]}}}],&quot;schema&quot;:&quot;
>> >
>> https://github.com/citation-style-language/schema/raw/master/csl-citation.json&quot
>> ;}
>> > RNDuhNYYpC1hN"/></text:p></text:note-body></text:note>
>> > ------------------------------
>> >
>> > I'm not sure what the best way to do this is; it may be that zotxt could
>> be
>> > extended to get zotero to do the heavy lifting here.
>> >
>> > I know Erik H reads this list, so if you have any suggestions, Erik, I
>> > would love to hear them.  But maybe other people also have suggestions
>> > about modifying export filters - -that would also be really helpful for
>> > me.  Thanks as always,
>> >
>> > Matt
>>
>>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-01-27 14:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-01-26 16:29 exporting zotxt or orgref links to HTML and ODF Matt Price
     [not found] ` <54C67E1A.8080706@law.lsu.edu>
2015-01-26 20:40   ` Matt Price
2015-01-26 21:53     ` Monroe, Will
2015-01-27  8:25 ` Eric S Fraga
2015-01-27  9:23 ` Christian Moe
2015-01-27 13:30   ` Rasmus
2015-01-27 13:51     ` Matt Price
2015-01-27 14:14       ` Rasmus
2015-01-27 18:17         ` John Kitchin
2015-01-27 15:24       ` Christian Moe
2015-01-27 17:24     ` Richard Lawrence
2015-01-27 17:50       ` Rasmus
2015-01-28  4:09         ` Richard Lawrence
2015-01-27 20:01       ` Christian Moe
2015-01-27 22:08         ` Rasmus
2015-01-27 22:15         ` John Kitchin
2015-01-28  2:10         ` Matt Price
2015-01-28  6:37       ` Erik Hetzner
2015-02-01  4:20         ` Erik Hetzner
2015-01-27 12:01 ` Vikas Rawal
2015-01-27 13:12   ` Matt Price
2015-01-27 14:28     ` Eric S Fraga
2015-01-27 13:31   ` Albert Krewinkel
     [not found] ` <m2vbjsvay0.fsf@christianmoe.com>
     [not found]   ` <CAN_Dec9qBWWWgdX+wQhdgbthMg_ZOgbOMFoXFixSc4=74avMjw@mail.gmail.com>
2015-01-27 14:41     ` Christian Moe [this message]
     [not found] <CAMfbzvA83eSWe79Ot=yX+_s_g33gpLnP-z+zQ52QFJm+iJTR+Q@mail.gmail.com>
2015-01-28 21:53 ` Matt Price
2015-01-28 23:01   ` John Kitchin
2015-01-29  1:34     ` Matt Price
2015-01-29  1:48       ` John Kitchin
     [not found]         ` <CAN_Dec80Su+5Nh5mqNxBXsLu_gm93aY77B=2Zrce-TJ1RPKCig@mail.gmail.com>
2015-01-29 13:06           ` John Kitchin
2015-01-29 13:11             ` Vikas Rawal
2015-01-29 13:24               ` John Kitchin
2015-01-29 13:39                 ` Vikas Rawal
2015-01-29 13:09       ` John Kitchin
2015-01-29  2:26     ` Vikas Rawal

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