From: Rasmus <rasmus@gmx.us>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: exporting zotxt or orgref links to HTML and ODF
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 18:50:45 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87h9vc864q.fsf@gmx.us> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 8761bsp26n.fsf@berkeley.edu
Hi,
Richard Lawrence <richard.lawrence@berkeley.edu> writes:
> Rasmus <rasmus@gmx.us> writes:
>
>> IMO we /need/ to add proper citation support to Org, preferably with a
>> real syntax rather than these link-"solutions" and with good backend
>> support (bibtex & Zotero for starters, I guess).
>> ...
>> /Proper/ citation support (not links) is, IMO, the last thing that is
>> missing for good academic publishing support.
>
> Although my home-baked solution presently works for me, I am inclined to
> agree.
It works for me as well, but it's still an ugly hack that I cannot advice
friends and colleagues to follow.
Still, I would much rather have quality-support like with entities.
> I've just had a glance at: http://pandoc.org/README.html#citations
Indeed. Pandoc seems to most sensible. I have a survey of
implementations in on my other computer (in a folder that is not synced
between my PCs).
> Org does use single brackets and `@'-signs for other things (footnote
> markers, priorities, statistics cookies, inactive timestamps, list
> counters, inline export snippets -- I think that's it). But these
> should all be pretty easy to tell apart from citations using regular
> expressions, so I wouldn't expect parsing this syntax to present any
> difficulties.
Maybe something like:
@short-textcite-key, (@parentcite-key) and [@textcite-key :with options]
(@parencite-key :with options).
> Does anyone have citation needs that this syntax doesn't cover?
From my experience with social science publication, one needs to be able
to add options (e.g. cite-type, "citeyear", say) and pre and post notes.
> The bigger question is whether, in addition to a citation *syntax*, it
> would be a lot of work to add support for the various citation database
> formats, as well as the various output styles, and which ones to
> support.
I guess. But it can be added gradually.
BTW: Org has an almost-agnostic format for storing citation data via
org-bibtex.el. So perhaps it's easier to go from whatever to
org-bibtex-format and from there to ox-backend-format. I think that's how
pandoc does it as well.
—Rasmus
--
May the Force be with you
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-01-27 17:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-01-26 16:29 exporting zotxt or orgref links to HTML and ODF Matt Price
[not found] ` <54C67E1A.8080706@law.lsu.edu>
2015-01-26 20:40 ` Matt Price
2015-01-26 21:53 ` Monroe, Will
2015-01-27 8:25 ` Eric S Fraga
2015-01-27 9:23 ` Christian Moe
2015-01-27 13:30 ` Rasmus
2015-01-27 13:51 ` Matt Price
2015-01-27 14:14 ` Rasmus
2015-01-27 18:17 ` John Kitchin
2015-01-27 15:24 ` Christian Moe
2015-01-27 17:24 ` Richard Lawrence
2015-01-27 17:50 ` Rasmus [this message]
2015-01-28 4:09 ` Richard Lawrence
2015-01-27 20:01 ` Christian Moe
2015-01-27 22:08 ` Rasmus
2015-01-27 22:15 ` John Kitchin
2015-01-28 2:10 ` Matt Price
2015-01-28 6:37 ` Erik Hetzner
2015-02-01 4:20 ` Erik Hetzner
2015-01-27 12:01 ` Vikas Rawal
2015-01-27 13:12 ` Matt Price
2015-01-27 14:28 ` Eric S Fraga
2015-01-27 13:31 ` Albert Krewinkel
[not found] ` <m2vbjsvay0.fsf@christianmoe.com>
[not found] ` <CAN_Dec9qBWWWgdX+wQhdgbthMg_ZOgbOMFoXFixSc4=74avMjw@mail.gmail.com>
2015-01-27 14:41 ` Christian Moe
[not found] <CAMfbzvA83eSWe79Ot=yX+_s_g33gpLnP-z+zQ52QFJm+iJTR+Q@mail.gmail.com>
2015-01-28 21:53 ` Matt Price
2015-01-28 23:01 ` John Kitchin
2015-01-29 1:34 ` Matt Price
2015-01-29 1:48 ` John Kitchin
[not found] ` <CAN_Dec80Su+5Nh5mqNxBXsLu_gm93aY77B=2Zrce-TJ1RPKCig@mail.gmail.com>
2015-01-29 13:06 ` John Kitchin
2015-01-29 13:11 ` Vikas Rawal
2015-01-29 13:24 ` John Kitchin
2015-01-29 13:39 ` Vikas Rawal
2015-01-29 13:09 ` John Kitchin
2015-01-29 2:26 ` Vikas Rawal
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