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From: John Kitchin <johnrkitchin@gmail.com>
To: Matt Price <moptop99@gmail.com>
Cc: Org Mode <emacs-orgmode@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: exporting zotxt or orgref links to HTML and ODF
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2015 20:48:46 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJ51ETq5kbwk2SMMU6uMd+_P=VB+GdinaMvki1OL9r8sSmdT4Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAN_Dec9OK1_91oe7Xa1_NVQ_3kOx8mphVH84J=+rFdO-FraaSw@mail.gmail.com>

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I can see how you could have a command insert links from a zotero database.
You just need some way to get a list of the keys for that. it looks like
zotxt could provide that. if not, it could be a few sqlite commands to get
it.

Lets say we have citations like: zotero:zotero-key or [@zotero-key]. These
are easy to get I think.

I am still unclear on what you do after that. So far I only have used
bibtex as the backend database, and there are programs like bibtex and
pandox that create the bibliography from it. What is the end format you
want? and how would zotero be used to generate the bibliography?

John

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Professor
Doherty Hall A207F
Department of Chemical Engineering
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412-268-7803
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On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 8:34 PM, Matt Price <moptop99@gmail.com> wrote:

> John,
>
> this does look very powerful.  Do you see a path forward that would help
> add zotero support to org-ref, probably using Erik's zotxt library?  Does
> that seem like a worthwhile goal for you?
>
> Matt
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 6:01 PM, John Kitchin <johnrkitchin@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> With the latest version of org-ref, I can automate export from org
>> through markdown to docx via pandoc like this:
>>
>> #+BEGIN_SRC emacs-lisp
>> (defun ox-export-to-docx-and-open ()
>>  "Export the current org file as a docx via markdown."
>>  (interactive)
>> (let* ((bibfile (expand-file-name (car (org-ref-find-bibliography))))
>>        ;; this is probably a full path
>>        (current-file (buffer-file-name))
>>        (basename (file-name-sans-extension current-file))
>>        (md-file (concat basename ".md"))
>>        (docx-file (concat basename ".docx")))
>>
>>   (when (file-exists-p docx-file) (delete-file docx-file))
>>   (org-export-to-file 'md md-file)
>>   (shell-command (format
>>                   "pandoc -s -S --bibliography=%s %s -o %s"
>>                   bibfile md-file docx-file))
>>   (org-open-file docx-file '(16))))
>> #+END_SRC
>>
>>
>> this works because i defined a markdown format function that converts
>> the cite link to pandoc format on export. I could avoid the markdown
>> translation if I could do an org to org export that would do that. With
>> a little work we could define file tags like:
>>
>> #+PANDOC_CSL: some-csl-file
>>
>> that would also get passed to the pandoc command to determine the style
>> of the citation and bibliography.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Matt Price writes:
>>
>> > i think I may have seen it these on the list at one point, but it's very
>> > helpful to be reminded.
>> >
>> > I do think that the default fonts, etc., are a bit of an acquired taste
>> for
>> > humanists; and I've gotten used to using custom styles in html & odt for
>> > size & placing of images; but even without following the instructions
>> > carefully, export seems to work, which is pretyt amazing!
>> >
>> > Vikas recommends involving pandoc manually, as Erik H. has also
>> suggested
>> > to me; I would like to aovid doing that if possible, but if it has to be
>> > done i guess I can find some way of automating it.
>> >
>> > There are clearly a lot of options in this space; I am still interested
>> in
>> > using Zotero if I can, so will continue working with zotxt, but
>> hopefully
>> > in a way that gets me closer to other people's usage patterns.
>> >
>> > thanks,
>> > Matt
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 3:31 PM, Vicente Vera <vicentemvp@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hello. Interesting thread!
>> >> Matt, have you read Vikas guide to writing papers with Org?
>> >> https://github.com/vikasrawal/orgpaper
>> >> From my point of view, using LaTeX through Org isn't difficult at all.
>> >> You'll need to tweak a few things (packages, figures, etc.), but it's
>> >> definitely easier for a beginner that starting a LaTeX document from
>> >> scratch.
>> >> Here's another article about writing LaTeX (social science) papers:
>> >> https://github.com/kjhealy/workflow-paper
>> >>
>>
>> --
>> Professor John Kitchin
>> Doherty Hall A207F
>> Department of Chemical Engineering
>> Carnegie Mellon University
>> Pittsburgh, PA 15213
>> 412-268-7803
>> @johnkitchin
>> http://kitchingroup.cheme.cmu.edu
>>
>
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-01-29  1:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CAMfbzvA83eSWe79Ot=yX+_s_g33gpLnP-z+zQ52QFJm+iJTR+Q@mail.gmail.com>
2015-01-28 21:53 ` exporting zotxt or orgref links to HTML and ODF Matt Price
2015-01-28 23:01   ` John Kitchin
2015-01-29  1:34     ` Matt Price
2015-01-29  1:48       ` John Kitchin [this message]
     [not found]         ` <CAN_Dec80Su+5Nh5mqNxBXsLu_gm93aY77B=2Zrce-TJ1RPKCig@mail.gmail.com>
2015-01-29 13:06           ` John Kitchin
2015-01-29 13:11             ` Vikas Rawal
2015-01-29 13:24               ` John Kitchin
2015-01-29 13:39                 ` Vikas Rawal
2015-01-29 13:09       ` John Kitchin
2015-01-29  2:26     ` Vikas Rawal
2015-01-26 16:29 Matt Price
     [not found] ` <54C67E1A.8080706@law.lsu.edu>
2015-01-26 20:40   ` Matt Price
2015-01-26 21:53     ` Monroe, Will
2015-01-27  8:25 ` Eric S Fraga
2015-01-27  9:23 ` Christian Moe
2015-01-27 13:30   ` Rasmus
2015-01-27 13:51     ` Matt Price
2015-01-27 14:14       ` Rasmus
2015-01-27 18:17         ` John Kitchin
2015-01-27 15:24       ` Christian Moe
2015-01-27 17:24     ` Richard Lawrence
2015-01-27 17:50       ` Rasmus
2015-01-28  4:09         ` Richard Lawrence
2015-01-27 20:01       ` Christian Moe
2015-01-27 22:08         ` Rasmus
2015-01-27 22:15         ` John Kitchin
2015-01-28  2:10         ` Matt Price
2015-01-28  6:37       ` Erik Hetzner
2015-02-01  4:20         ` Erik Hetzner
2015-01-27 12:01 ` Vikas Rawal
2015-01-27 13:12   ` Matt Price
2015-01-27 14:28     ` Eric S Fraga
2015-01-27 13:31   ` Albert Krewinkel
     [not found] ` <m2vbjsvay0.fsf@christianmoe.com>
     [not found]   ` <CAN_Dec9qBWWWgdX+wQhdgbthMg_ZOgbOMFoXFixSc4=74avMjw@mail.gmail.com>
2015-01-27 14:41     ` Christian Moe

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