Re: Org-mode screencasts

From: Shelagh Manton <shelagh.manton@gmail.com>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Org-mode screencasts
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 03:46:03 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <i7h6tr$dct$1@dough.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: E069B2F2-1AB0-4F07-BA0D-BD769EAF5B44@ncogni.to

On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 23:34:00 -0400, Richard Moreland wrote:

> Erik, thanks for the reminder about folding.  I had it in my script and
> must've lost it in one of the edits.  I do prefer making these on the
> Mac.  It makes piecing them together much easier.  Recordmydesktop on
> Linux will do single takes fine, but stitching it together in the end
> may be a chore.  Maybe you guys are good enough to do it all in one take
> though :)
> 
> John, you raise good points about what we can expect of the viewer.  I'm
> open to suggestions, in fact maybe a 'Just enough Emacs for Org-mode'
> intro could help newcomers to Emacs who are here just for Org-mode (like
> I was a year ago).  Some of these issues could also be addressed on the
> episode's webpage, which would link to relevant docs and info.
> 
> As far as some of the missing keystrokes, I was trying to find a balance
> between showing every keystroke (and risk confusing the user), or just
> show only the keys with modifiers (my 2 options in the tool,
> unfortunately).
> 
> I've updated the screencast (same URL) to contain a small bit about
> folding.
> 
> Thanks for the comments, I hope we can refine this and make a plan for
> more as well.
> 
> -Richard

A tool I looked at a few months ago might be useful here.
http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/ScreencastMode 
I downloaded it but haven't played with it yet. Its main purpose is to 
make the inner working of whats happening in emacs more obvious to the 
viewer. 

Shelagh
> 
> On Sep 23, 2010, at 11:09 PM, John Hendy wrote:
> 
>> Wow, Richard. That was sweet. You even have a pleasing "screencaster's
>> voice."
>> 
>> My only thought was along the lines of what one should assume about
>> org-mode viewers. Familiarity with emacs? No knowledge of emacs? I only
>> got into emacs because I found org-mode, so my only thought there is
>> that I might not even have known what "meta" was... I can't recall, but
>> did you clarify meta = alt on Win/Linux and Command on Mac?
>> 
>> Stuff like that might be helpful. Obviously these won't all be done on
>> a Mac and some unfamiliar with it might wonder what the Command and
>> carat symbols are on their own keyboards?
>> 
>> As Erik said -- folding and perhaps adjusting in and out (meta +
>> left/right). Also, it seems that only the meta or control functions
>> show up as keystrokes. For example, I thought you said "M-n s" and "M-n
>> w" to narrow on the tree and then widen the view but I only ever saw
>> one part of that flash on the screen.
>> 
>> Great, great job. Loved it and think this is exactly what Org could
>> use. I have a co-worker who just got emacs and org-mode up on his
>> computer and would love to have something this simple and clear-cut.
>> 
>> 
>> Great work, again.
>> John
>> 
>> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 9:54 PM, Erik Iverson <eriki@ccbr.umn.edu>
>> wrote: On 09/23/2010 07:45 PM, Richard Moreland wrote: I jumped the gun
>> a bit and decided to put together a video showing the very basics.  It
>> seems overly simple when I re-watch it, but I think it is helpful for
>> those who are unsure how to get started with the basics of Org-mode.
>> 
>> http://ncogni.to/org-screencasts/1-basics/
>> 
>> Feedback is welcome, these were the least exciting topics to cover, but
>> I wasn't sure how to really wow new users without overwhelming them.  I
>> figured that taking it step by step with short, clear episodes covering
>> special topics would be a good start.
>> 
>> 
>> Really nice, agree that the intro is the least exciting.
>> 
>> But even starting with agendas in the next one, the more interesting
>> things can be shown.
>> 
>> Great job!
>> 
>> So with the software you use, you can go and insert/delete/edit voice
>> into the presentation once it's complete, or if you want to change the
>> wording in one part, do you have to record the whole thing over again? 
>> I assume you can change it, but don't know if the Linux tool has that
>> capability.
>> 
>> 
>> -Richard
>> 
>> On Sep 23, 2010, at 6:47 PM, Charles Cave wrote:
>> 
>> Richard Moreland<rlm<at>  ncogni.to>  writes: I think it would be
>> helpful to create a series of screencasts to demonstrate Org-mode.
>> 
>> Great idea!  I would he happy to record a couple of screencasts based
>> on tutorials I have written. Currently I am preparing a tutorial on
>> date trees and capturing notes to a journal.
>> 
>> I am a Windows user and a screencast tool I use is
>> http://www.screenr.com - from Articulate. This allows screencasts up to
>> 5 minutes to be recorded then hosted on their website.
>> 
>> Charles
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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