From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Shelagh Manton Subject: Re: Org-mode screencasts Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 03:46:03 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <4C9C12FC.5040503@ccbr.umn.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Return-path: Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=50438 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OyzEo-0000kP-96 for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 23:46:19 -0400 Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OyzEm-0002kO-Ne for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 23:46:18 -0400 Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:56218) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OyzEm-0002kD-9v for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 23:46:16 -0400 Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OyzEi-0004dV-3V for emacs-orgmode@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 05:46:12 +0200 Received: from 203.219.222.168 ([203.219.222.168]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 05:46:12 +0200 Received: from shelagh.manton by 203.219.222.168 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2010 05:46:12 +0200 List-Id: "General discussions about Org-mode." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Sender: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+geo-emacs-orgmode=m.gmane.org@gnu.org To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 23:34:00 -0400, Richard Moreland wrote: > Erik, thanks for the reminder about folding. I had it in my script and > must've lost it in one of the edits. I do prefer making these on the > Mac. It makes piecing them together much easier. Recordmydesktop on > Linux will do single takes fine, but stitching it together in the end > may be a chore. Maybe you guys are good enough to do it all in one take > though :) > > John, you raise good points about what we can expect of the viewer. I'm > open to suggestions, in fact maybe a 'Just enough Emacs for Org-mode' > intro could help newcomers to Emacs who are here just for Org-mode (like > I was a year ago). Some of these issues could also be addressed on the > episode's webpage, which would link to relevant docs and info. > > As far as some of the missing keystrokes, I was trying to find a balance > between showing every keystroke (and risk confusing the user), or just > show only the keys with modifiers (my 2 options in the tool, > unfortunately). > > I've updated the screencast (same URL) to contain a small bit about > folding. > > Thanks for the comments, I hope we can refine this and make a plan for > more as well. > > -Richard A tool I looked at a few months ago might be useful here. http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/ScreencastMode I downloaded it but haven't played with it yet. Its main purpose is to make the inner working of whats happening in emacs more obvious to the viewer. Shelagh > > On Sep 23, 2010, at 11:09 PM, John Hendy wrote: > >> Wow, Richard. That was sweet. You even have a pleasing "screencaster's >> voice." >> >> My only thought was along the lines of what one should assume about >> org-mode viewers. Familiarity with emacs? No knowledge of emacs? I only >> got into emacs because I found org-mode, so my only thought there is >> that I might not even have known what "meta" was... I can't recall, but >> did you clarify meta = alt on Win/Linux and Command on Mac? >> >> Stuff like that might be helpful. Obviously these won't all be done on >> a Mac and some unfamiliar with it might wonder what the Command and >> carat symbols are on their own keyboards? >> >> As Erik said -- folding and perhaps adjusting in and out (meta + >> left/right). Also, it seems that only the meta or control functions >> show up as keystrokes. For example, I thought you said "M-n s" and "M-n >> w" to narrow on the tree and then widen the view but I only ever saw >> one part of that flash on the screen. >> >> Great, great job. Loved it and think this is exactly what Org could >> use. I have a co-worker who just got emacs and org-mode up on his >> computer and would love to have something this simple and clear-cut. >> >> >> Great work, again. >> John >> >> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 9:54 PM, Erik Iverson >> wrote: On 09/23/2010 07:45 PM, Richard Moreland wrote: I jumped the gun >> a bit and decided to put together a video showing the very basics. It >> seems overly simple when I re-watch it, but I think it is helpful for >> those who are unsure how to get started with the basics of Org-mode. >> >> http://ncogni.to/org-screencasts/1-basics/ >> >> Feedback is welcome, these were the least exciting topics to cover, but >> I wasn't sure how to really wow new users without overwhelming them. I >> figured that taking it step by step with short, clear episodes covering >> special topics would be a good start. >> >> >> Really nice, agree that the intro is the least exciting. >> >> But even starting with agendas in the next one, the more interesting >> things can be shown. >> >> Great job! >> >> So with the software you use, you can go and insert/delete/edit voice >> into the presentation once it's complete, or if you want to change the >> wording in one part, do you have to record the whole thing over again? >> I assume you can change it, but don't know if the Linux tool has that >> capability. >> >> >> -Richard >> >> On Sep 23, 2010, at 6:47 PM, Charles Cave wrote: >> >> Richard Moreland ncogni.to> writes: I think it would be >> helpful to create a series of screencasts to demonstrate Org-mode. >> >> Great idea! I would he happy to record a couple of screencasts based >> on tutorials I have written. Currently I am preparing a tutorial on >> date trees and capturing notes to a journal. >> >> I am a Windows user and a screencast tool I use is >> http://www.screenr.com - from Articulate. This allows screencasts up to >> 5 minutes to be recorded then hosted on their website. >> >> Charles >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ Emacs-orgmode mailing >> list >> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. >> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode >> >> >> _______________________________________________ Emacs-orgmode mailing >> list >> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. >> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode >> >> >> _______________________________________________ Emacs-orgmode mailing >> list >> Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. >> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org >> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode >> >> > > _______________________________________________ Emacs-orgmode mailing > list > Please use `Reply All' to send replies to the list. > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode