Re: Re: Org-mode screencasts

From: Richard Moreland <rlm@ncogni.to>
To: John Hendy <jw.hendy@gmail.com>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Charles Cave <charles_cave@optusnet.com.au>
Subject: Re: Re: Org-mode screencasts
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 23:34:00 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E069B2F2-1AB0-4F07-BA0D-BD769EAF5B44@ncogni.to> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=AoLCwfaMCKWq=R47c8STx48Gh+V_NnW79hA34@mail.gmail.com>

Erik, thanks for the reminder about folding.  I had it in my script and must've lost it in one of the edits.  I do prefer making these on the Mac.  It makes piecing them together much easier.  Recordmydesktop on Linux will do single takes fine, but stitching it together in the end may be a chore.  Maybe you guys are good enough to do it all in one take though :)

John, you raise good points about what we can expect of the viewer.  I'm open to suggestions, in fact maybe a 'Just enough Emacs for Org-mode' intro could help newcomers to Emacs who are here just for Org-mode (like I was a year ago).  Some of these issues could also be addressed on the episode's webpage, which would link to relevant docs and info.

As far as some of the missing keystrokes, I was trying to find a balance between showing every keystroke (and risk confusing the user), or just show only the keys with modifiers (my 2 options in the tool, unfortunately).

I've updated the screencast (same URL) to contain a small bit about folding.

Thanks for the comments, I hope we can refine this and make a plan for more as well.

-Richard

On Sep 23, 2010, at 11:09 PM, John Hendy wrote:

> Wow, Richard. That was sweet. You even have a pleasing "screencaster's voice."
> 
> My only thought was along the lines of what one should assume about org-mode viewers. Familiarity with emacs? No knowledge of emacs? I only got into emacs because I found org-mode, so my only thought there is that I might not even have known what "meta" was... I can't recall, but did you clarify meta = alt on Win/Linux and Command on Mac?
> 
> Stuff like that might be helpful. Obviously these won't all be done on a Mac and some unfamiliar with it might wonder what the Command and carat symbols are on their own keyboards?
> 
> As Erik said -- folding and perhaps adjusting in and out (meta + left/right). Also, it seems that only the meta or control functions show up as keystrokes. For example, I thought you said "M-n s" and "M-n w" to narrow on the tree and then widen the view but I only ever saw one part of that flash on the screen.
> 
> Great, great job. Loved it and think this is exactly what Org could use. I have a co-worker who just got emacs and org-mode up on his computer and would love to have something this simple and clear-cut.
> 
> 
> Great work, again.
> John
> 
> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 9:54 PM, Erik Iverson <eriki@ccbr.umn.edu> wrote:
> On 09/23/2010 07:45 PM, Richard Moreland wrote:
> I jumped the gun a bit and decided to put together a video showing the very basics.  It seems overly simple when I re-watch it, but I think it is helpful for those who are unsure how to get started with the basics of Org-mode.
> 
> http://ncogni.to/org-screencasts/1-basics/
> 
> Feedback is welcome, these were the least exciting topics to cover, but I wasn't sure how to really wow new users without overwhelming them.  I figured that taking it step by step with short, clear episodes covering special topics would be a good start.
> 
> 
> Really nice, agree that the intro is the least exciting.
> 
> But even starting with agendas in the next one, the more interesting things
> can be shown.
> 
> Great job!
> 
> So with the software you use, you can go and insert/delete/edit voice into the
> presentation once it's complete, or if you want to change the wording in one
> part, do you have to record the whole thing over again?  I assume you can change
> it, but don't know if the Linux tool has that capability.
> 
> 
> -Richard
> 
> On Sep 23, 2010, at 6:47 PM, Charles Cave wrote:
> 
> Richard Moreland<rlm<at>  ncogni.to>  writes:
> I think it would be helpful to create a series of screencasts to
> demonstrate Org-mode.
> 
> Great idea!  I would he happy to record a couple of screencasts
> based on tutorials I have written. Currently I am preparing
> a tutorial on date trees and capturing notes to a journal.
> 
> I am a Windows user and a screencast tool I use is
> http://www.screenr.com - from Articulate.
> This allows screencasts up to 5 minutes to be recorded
> then hosted on their website.
> 
> Charles
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